Poisoned???

[GOA]

Got butylone under a year ago and tested it promptly. In fact, if you use the search function you can refer to my well detailed report. Needless to say, a friend and I each eyeballed and dropped about 50mg, then another 50mg an hour later. We were enjoying the typical stimulant onset, but there was something terrible wrong about everything. We both blacked out completely for 3 days until we began to come into the reality of things. Right zombied out effect. Good thing we didn't take the standard b1 dosage otherwise the outcome may have been completely different.

I think one of two things may have happened here:

a) An asshole may have found my stash and tainted the butylone with phenazepam

or

b) Butylone has an incredibly low shelf live and has absolutely different psychoactive properties in it degraded form. However, it did not appear degraded at all.

Besides all the crazy shit we must have done on that amnesia bender, I still can't find the original vial of butylone. Anywhere.

Any insights? :confused:

[Mona Lisa]

Wow, that would be a shame but 'tis possible. Have used methylone and mephedrone which were over two years old (stored in double plastic sealed baggies at room temperature in evelope) and didn't notice any degradation apart from possibly a subtle reduction in potency; as a beta-ketone, would have thought butylone would have a similar shelf-life but could of course be wrong.

[Ebony]

Got the stuff under a year ago and tested it promptly. In fact, if you use the search function you can refer to my well detailed report. Needless to say, a friend and I tried an amount, each eyeballed about 50mg dropped twice. We were enjoying the typical butylone onset, but there was something terrible wrong about everything. We both blacked out completely for 3 days until we were starting to come into reality of things. Right zombied out effect.

I think one of two things may have happened here:

a) An asshole may have found my stash and tampered with the phenazepam along with everything else.

or

b) Butylone has an incredibly low shelf live and has absolutely different psychoactive properties in it degraded form.

Besides all the crazy shit we must have done on that amnseia bender, I still can't find the original vial of butylone. Anywhere.

Anything or reports or insights? :confused:

I've had old butylone, I'm guessing if it was stored properly it would out live me with nearly the same affects. I'm guessing option (a)

[GOA]

My shit is always very well stored.

I personally got through the situation alright because I had no obligations to attend to away from home--I slept off the entire mindfuck. But a friend however, who took the "butylone" with me is very distraught and confused, mostly because he has lost all his money, misplaced many things, and said some things (which he is totally unaware of) to peers/family members whom now all absolutely hate him. And he has no recollection of anything that has happened for almost a week, nor do I. I would not wish this type of temporary insanity on anybody and I greatly need advice as I have a furious seed for redemption right now. I feel like I've been played as a fucking pawn by the people I'm supposed to trust.

It "appears" for now that the remainder of my chems are untouched, but I'll have to reweigh/reassay each and every substance I have; sort of a check-in, check-out routine from now on. It's a kick in the balls, but I don't want this to ever happen again--myself or any of my tripmates. Luckily phenazempam isn't water soluble... that way I can filter any out that may be contaminated in the remainder of my chems. FUCKING HELL!

I'm trying to be as conservative about this as possible, but I'm fearing it may come to an eye for an eye situation here as I am almost certain who may have poisoned us. Right now I'm trying to decide whether karma should sort things out, or if I should confront him non-violently. Unfortunately this is much too far in a gray area for any authorities to be involved. I need guidance for this, please.


*** I WILL STRESS THIS AGAIN. PHENAZEPAM IS BAD FUCKING SHIT. YOU RISK YOURSELF AND OTHERS JUST POSSESSING THIS CRAP! ***

[enduin]

Man I'm sorry for you and your buddy, sounds like a fucking nightmare!!

Only thing I'd say is definitely avoid the eye per eye and try to poison the guy yourself. Much better that you beat the shit out of him instead, but you know, you could even get killed if you decided to abuse your stuff, now imagine if you poison the guy's stuff with phen and he abuses and get killed. Not something you wanna have on your shoulders! The guy needs a lesson imho, cause forgiving is good, but when someone is so stupid that plays with other people's life, that is not acceptable. What kind of lesson you wanna give him is up to you, but a lesson can't be too dangerous or it defeat the purpose.

[GOA]

Man I'm sorry for you and your buddy, sounds like a fucking nightmare!!

Only thing I'd say is definitely avoid the eye per eye and try to poison the guy yourself. Much better that you beat the shit out of him instead, but you know, you could even get killed if you decided to abuse your stuff, now imagine if you poison the guy's stuff with phen and he abuses and get killed. Not something you wanna have on your shoulders! The guy needs a lesson imho, cause forgiving is good, but when someone is so stupid that plays with other people's life, that is not acceptable. What kind of lesson you wanna give him is up to you, but a lesson can't be too dangerous or it defeat the purpose.

Thank you for your advice.