Phenazepam

[shizerbeard]

Got 30 tabs of this today.

Took half a tab (being extra careful due to some of the problems people have had with this particular benzo recently) an hour and a half ago nearly.

took ages to kick in, but feeling it now. It doesnt feel much stronger than say 5mg valium (it lasts a lot longer though..) at the moment but i might try and have the other half of the tab later before bed.

Im gonna get a good sleep tonight!!


memory loss is the only thing that worrys me as some people have started with 1 and ended up taking loads without realising.

[Spaced out]

lucky, i only got quitipine to dabble with tonight, just dropped 200mg,

[shizerbeard]

ok so i ended up having 3 tabs of this last night

certainly felt very chlled, slightly drowsy but i wasnt asleep any longer than usual, even though i did still feel it this morning when i woke up! long lasting for sure...but doesnt seem as strong as some people have experienced.

still being careful with this stuff - might up my dose next time slightly but will still keep an eye on what im doing.

and i didnt forget everything or black out thankfully

[Spaced out]

lol, i was alseep from that 200mg lastnight :D

[shizerbeard]

be careful with dosing ash (sure you will be!) but ive not experienced any problems whatsoever with this stuff, in fact id say i need more than 4 for a decent dose...

but dont just jump in on 5 as some have done that with psychotic results....

[Spaced out]

be careful with dosing ash (sure you will be!) but ive not experienced any problems whatsoever with this stuff, in fact id say i need more than 4 for a decent dose...

but dont just jump in on 5 as some have done that with psychotic results....
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[shizerbeard]

Only using it for insomnia/comedowns/panic attacks (with the exception of one test) so I don't foresee having any problems gobbling tabs. Also don't really enjoy the downer feel so yeah. Thanks, though. :)

tis the best way. thats my plan too (though i tested it when it came for recreational purposes)

[wildguy6969]

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well iam glad your enjoying it ..... it was a nightmare for me haha

[TheNorthKingdom]

well iam glad your enjoying it ..... it was a nightmare for me haha

You took to much or? What happened?

[shizerbeard]

Got more of this :)

80 tabs this time, so far so good i have to say!

I took around 4mg to combat meph insomnia with a fair degree of success the other week , and i will again tonight. Any tips on how much you use to combat stim awakeness?

Still feel pretty groggy next day with this stuff though! Dont mind but it takes me a good couple hours to wake the fuck up and get out of bed!

[valseedian]

I've ordered phenazepam powder in the past and I've had no adverse reactions on doses lower than 3mg.
retrograde amnesia doesn't start occurring untill slightly higher than 5mg.

watch out tho, it has a 60+ hour half life in the body, so it's duration can be as much as 3 or 4 days depending on your dose. I find that this duration keeps me from being 'adicted' in the sence that I needed to redose constantly, and 25mg lasted me more than 2 months or sporatic use.
tollerance to benzos builds somewhat fast with this drug, probably from down-regulation due to it's length of action.

NEVER dose more than 4mg in a day, and try not to top 10mg in a week if you can avoid it. This benzo isn't incredible for putting you to sleep, but it's great as an anti-anxiety agent.

because of it's low dosing and long duration, this is a very suitable benzo for people who have random drug screenings. I was tested for benzos randomly for some time while taking Phenazepam every 3 days or more, never failed.

[enduin]

Seconded, long halflife benzos are not the best for after stim sleep, but they can be great for anxiety management. I usually use a good dose of bromazepam after meph (halflife 24h), but probably a 12h benzo would be even better...

[ezenow]

Got more of this :)

80 tabs this time, so far so good i have to say!

I took around 4mg to combat meph insomnia with a fair degree of success the other week , and i will again tonight. Any tips on how much you use to combat stim awakeness?

Still feel pretty groggy next day with this stuff though! Dont mind but it takes me a good couple hours to wake the fuck up and get out of bed!

Think this is better to chill you out than knock you out.
Looks like upping the dosage to knock you out is were the problems start with this one.
Not tested yet my self just from reading up on the net, good price though.
For knock out zopicon / zopiclon for me is the best not bad price from op then

Any more input on dosage, tabs, and effects appreciated

[DavAth_Dionysus]

dammit, was suppos'd ta get 30 tabs but then shiz went crazy on ****... dammit... oh well, phenaz pow here I come ^_^

[GOA]

Very low overdose threshold... go over by even 2-3mg and you're going to be confused and want to go to sleep. This stuff is too strong for recreational use. Just very handy to have when a fast-acting, strong anxiolytic/sedative is needed to avoid bad scenarios. All-in-all, bad stuff to be using regularly. This belongs in the first-aid box beside the thorazine, or atropine... :eek:

EDIT: If responsbile and interested... check out benzos sub-thread, if you're an equivalent to an exec member.

[Pickled]

Been wanting to try these and a easy source has appeared.

[GOA]

Puts you to sleep for days if you take too much...Makes me lethargic 2 sayas afterwards... This would be a good diazepam for my death bed, that's about it.

[daveyboy]

Read the rules, it said I can't look for sources for restricted substances, but this isn't one so it's OK? If not, sorry!

My supply has gone... anyone know a new one? I get it 1g at a time.

[crazyfox]

Swim got his phenazepam through the post today, Weighted out 101mg and desolved the substance in just over 100ml of propylene glycol. It took ages to desolve, I stuck the container in the sink with hot water, shaking the container a few times.

SWIM dosed up on 1ml earlier and it was subtle... not what swim was expecting. Mood was lifted slightly and swim was quite chatty. Clear headed through the experience. Just re-dosed on 1.5ml which is as far as I'm gonna push it.

One odd thing is I'm not really that sedated but it def has helped anxiety and paranoia.

Ill post an update when this new dose kicks in.

update: still quite mild... apparently i look stoned, my thoughts are still pretty clear. Quite happy with this experiment it seems like a good chem for me. This stuff is great for anxiety and swim feels he can function normally... no chance of recreational use in swims opinion unless you want to push it past the 3mg level and risk a blackout.

I was expecting it to be a sleep aid style drug or perhaps i lost some of the phenazepam while measuring and the 10ml extra pg prob hasnt helped or perhaps i still have a tolerance to benzo's but its been over a month.

Tommorrow ill try 2ml/2mg'ish

[daveyboy]

Useful. I found several suppliers of it now, and this is what I was expecting and hoping for.

[daveyboy]

Have been looking around the net about possible bacterial contamination of this solution. As far as I know, 100% PG isn't conductive to any bacterial life, but a concentration of the level you will get by mixing phen/pg is conductive to some gram-negative bacteria, including the dangerous pseudomonads.

Maybe storing the mixture in the freezer isn't a bad idea if it's not all going to be used straight away? Can't say for sure this wouldn't harm the phen or cause some strange reaction, but seeing as they store drug test samples like this, doubt it does, and propylene glycol is an antifreeze after all.

[crazyfox]

cheers for the tip, havent got my own freezer but its on the top shelf of the firdge... hopefully that will slow down any bacteria.

[GOA]

From my experience with this stuff, you won't feel anything until you OD, and once you OD, you'll forget everything. So really, what's the point?

Use this when you're crashing hard, don't abuse it. Please. Otherwise you may end up doing or saying things you may regret.

[daveyboy]

good advice that, will not be stupid with it.

[GOA]

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[GOA]

I just flushed whatever I had leftover. I don't need anti-anxiety meds, especially ones as potent as this! I don't foresee any use for this, personally.

[crazyfox]

I still cant believe that someone would do that!

Was there any intention behind the poisining or did she/he steal some of the b1 and replace the rest with the closest looking powder without knowing the effects that would intail?

Does sound like it can be nothing other the phenazepam that would be the cause.

I hope your friend manages to repair his damaged relationships.

I donno if its worth having it knocking about but as i currently cant get any alternatives till i move ill be keeping mine.

[GOA]

I still cant believe that someone would do that!

Was there any intention behind the poisining or did she/he steal some of the b1 and replace the rest with the closest looking powder without knowing the effects that would intail?

Does sound like it can be nothing other the phenazepam that would be the cause.

I hope your friend manages to repair his damaged relationships.

I donno if its worth having it knocking about but as i currently cant get any alternatives till i move ill be keeping mine.

I filtered the B1 after I figured out what happened, and there was approx 100mg of another crystalline substance inside it. I tested a small amount of what I extracted recently, and it's definitely phenazepam. There was about 800 mg compound in the vial before we got poisoned, so I would say that we each consumed at least about 10mg - 15mg of phenazepam in one go. This shit is scary, almost as much as scopolamine or diphenhydramine... I had to let it go.

[scudinvi]

Seems to me you did the right thing dumping the rest.
Tis better to be safe than more sorry.

[Mona Lisa]

Wow.

It's something I'm staying well clear of.

[GOA]

Seems to me you did the right thing dumping the rest.
Tis better to be safe than more sorry.

I've just had too many bad experiences with it. Its very crystalline and heavy, kind of like methylone grains, making it very difficult to weigh accurately and sparingly. It's also very much insoluble in most easily obtainable solvents, so liquid measurements are out of the picture... the phenazepam isn't really to blame, to be perfectly honest... it's things like human error and sabotage that cause these "disasters". I just have to keep a better eye on my stuff, and the people I decide to associate with.

[crazyfox]

I used PG and just put it under a tap of hot water for a couple of hours, it eventually dissolves but I think Premazepam is legal and a safer alternative(dosage is 7.5mg = 5mg valium), cant find any suppliers though or much info other then wikipedia...

A while ago there where a few reports of fake valiums containing phenazepam which where on the streets, quite worrying.

[atom]

Has anyone tried using a blender to mix phenaz into PG? Any reason this wouldn't work? As for bacterial contamination, would adding a certain amount of ethanol to the mix work against this?

[The_One_and_Only_E]

Has anyone tried using a blender to mix phenaz into PG? Any reason this wouldn't work? As for bacterial contamination, would adding a certain amount of ethanol to the mix work against this?

What do you mean by PG? Is that a solvent? I wouldn't be worries about bacteria provided your blender is clean.

Ethanol + Benzos = bad vibes.

[SDBF]

probably means propylene glycol. I would recommend PEG 400.




What do you mean by PG? Is that a solvent? I wouldn't be worries about bacteria provided your blender is clean.

Ethanol + Benzos = bad vibes.

[atom]

I meant a very very small quantity of ethanol as a bacteriostatic, and not because of a dirty blender. I have since found out that benzyl alcohol does the trick -- is bacteriostatic -- and is not hard to find -- I think I got mine on Ebay. It has no physical effect on the human body, at least not when mixed w/PG. I am not going to try using the blender, even though I still think it is worth trying. Instead I'll use a beaker and glass stirring rod heated slightly on a coffee machine heating plate. The ratio is 80% propylene glycol (PG) to 20% benzyl alcohol. Standard liquid PG that can be bought from most electronic cigarette vendors (those that sell flavor making materials) is recommended and is cheap, not any of the many powdered forms to which one adds water -- that is bound to fail.

probably means propylene glycol. I would recommend PEG 400.

[konst]

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[konst]

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