Mouth and Tongue swelling

[bull022]

I bought a bulk amount of bubbles little over two months ago for a good price because of an upcoming ban on them. Now I only been doing legals a couple yrs and always take breaks in betwween try to take two weeks in between if i feel ive done it a lil too much i will take two months off so never really did much til getting this bulk amount

Now i been doing them almost every week everytime i say im going to take a break i get a call from a girl that wants to chill and do them and i can resist when a girl wants to chill and do them...lol

Anyway dont know if its just the bubbles or what but when ever i have a night of doing alot of them or if i do them two night in a row it seems my tongue the next day hurts a bit and i notice some scarring in the inside of my mouth , After examining the topngue further it seems the tongue hurts because it swells as i see the indentation of the teeth after a day or two the swelling goes back and the pain goes the mouth also seems to get sore and hurts alot

I noticed after doing a different pil the opther day i dfidnt have this but when doing the bubbles i get this

Could this be ive developed some kind of minor allergy to the bubbles ? Anybody else have anything similar? Hopefully after a nice break this wont happen anymore but curious if anybody had anything similar

[scudinvi]

I personally think it comes from exsessive use. That seems to be one of the minor side effects that comes with it when abused. You were'nt getting them before when you first got them right? If you built up a tolerance and slowly increased dose, you'll notice it more especially from the gurning. Well that's my opinion anyway.

[Neo]

This happens to many people on stimulants. You should take Magnesium pills. They are a muscle relaxant.

[bull022]

Really neo? Yes I been taking a good brand of magnesium orotate now which orotate is the most absorbable . To be honest Scud I think I did slightly get it before but very minor when taking the bubbles . but to be honest its hard to remember , weird because the day i took the ministry pills I didnt get the tongue thing but now every time i take the bubbles the day after i get the sores in the mouth and tongue swelling . Hoping after taking some time off this will not come back when i take them

[bull022]

Neo, is this from overuse of stimulants ? I also noticed a bit of a hard time now and then not so much falling aslep but getting good sound sleep seems like i toss and turn alot at night , well let me clarify i do get good sleep most of the time just had this problem two weeks ago the whole week i did not slep well .Hoping the tongue thing and sleep thing goes away with time off

[shizerbeard]

I get swollen/burnt feeling tongue and ulcers every time i binge on mephedrone.

ANd i class a binge as having any more than 2g to yourself in a session.

can last for days, right pain in the arse! fucking pisses me off somethimes.

I dont get this off ANYTHING ELSE IVE EVER TRIED, meph must be damn corrosive! Well GBL did it a couple of times when i hadnt diluted it enough now i think about it...

interestingly, the ulcers are always of exact same location and size every single time. and thats gotta be a shitload of times..2 at the back of my tongue, 2 on the sides of my tongue, 2 on the tip of my tongue (well almost)

[bull022]

Hmm very interesting shizer. Sounds like what i get though mine isnt just the tongue the tongue hurts and get the burnt feeling but it seems gets indentations of the teeth on the side of tongue like the tongue is then swelling and pshing on the teeth and getting that pain , but the ulcers and cuts seem to happen on inside of mouth . and yes they are painful and take two or three days to go completly away .

I guess bubbles are meph .Its weird because it sounds we get the same thing i think if i only do two or three in a night im ok but if i do 4 or more the next day i get it and if i do bubbles two nights in a row i get it bad that third day

But also believe what scud says could be true is doing too much may be causing this if i remember correctly i only got it very slightly and when i did a good amouth now it seems even less then what i said produces that the next day , when doing the ministry tabs was fine the next day so could be just the bubbles and too much of them makes it worse

Do you think taking along break will stop that ?

[Neo]

To be honest, doing recreational drugs any more than once or twice a week is probably going to cause some harm to your body, it might be minor but it won't be helping your immune system by taking drugs three days in a row. You will get sick.

You should limit your intake to once or twice a week, every couple of weeks max (specially with stimulants) and ensure you maintain a healthy diet and exercise routine.

[shizerbeard]

I guess bubbles are meph .Its weird because it sounds we get the same thing i think if i only do two or three in a night im ok but if i do 4 or more the next day i get it and if i do bubbles two nights in a row i get it bad that third day



Yea bubbles are always meph. If you buy em off the street or from a dealer, they could be cut aswell a bit. Ive seen and tried bubbles from local dealers here that were deffo cut.....I think the best way to avoid this mate is to watch your intake, only buy amounts that wont give you this mouth problem if it bothers you that much! And give yourself and your brain a bit of a break between sessions to get itself back to normal!

I used to be bad with the ol' drono but got sick of all the problems (all small but boy do they mount up) it can cause if abused heavily. Now i dont go over 2g hardly ever, as im vigilante and only buy the amount i want to take, even if it works out more expensive. Id rather pay a bit more not buying in bulk than end up in work on a comedown every other day or not eating or sleeping properly for days on end!



To be honest, doing recreational drugs any more than once or twice a week is probably going to cause some harm to your body, it might be minor but it won't be helping your immune system by taking drugs three days in a row. You will get sick.

You should limit your intake to once or twice a week, every couple of weeks max (specially with stimulants) and ensure you maintain a healthy diet and exercise routine.

yea listen to this dude!

[bull022]

Absolutely I agree, when i first joined these forums I couldnt believe how much some people did. I only did maybe once or twice a month and then after a few monmths would take 2 or 3 months off so as you can see i rarely took . only run into a problem with these mouth sores recently from the bubbles and because i bought bulk where i found myself doing every week , so im cutting way back

[shizerbeard]

Absolutely I agree, when i first joined these forums I couldnt believe how much some people did. I only did maybe once or twice a month and then after a few monmths would take 2 or 3 months off so as you can see i rarely took . only run into a problem with these mouth sores recently from the bubbles and because i bought bulk where i found myself doing every week , so im cutting way back

your a sensible guy, far more sensible that a lot of people i see in my area off theyre tits for fuck knows how long with no regard for theyre own health.

well, as sensible as a research chemical using bunch of druggies like we are can be :)

[Pseudo]

Some further info in case its of any use.........

Obviously this gives the liver extra stress as it tries to clear the toxins out of the body, you can help it a lot by using oil therapy. Sounds bad but its fast,easy and pain free!
This must be done on an empty stomach so before breakfast.
Use cold pressed good quality olive oil,pop a tablespoonful into your mouth and swoosh it about for 3 minutes-absolute max is 4.Suck it between your teeth and keep it moving around.When you spit it out you'll see its a strange creamy colour or much whiter-this is because of the toxins.Repeat this twice-so 3 times in total. Don't swallow any or you'll be ingesting the toxins again!When done use a half teaspoon of sea salt (NOT REFINED STUFF)or a half teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda dissolved in a little warm water and use this to rinse out your mouth then clean your teeth and tongue.

Also,ulcers in the mouth are indicative of upset somewhere in the digestive system so it would be worthwhile to invetigate support for that area too.Google and the words digestive tract support/cleanse ect bring up plenty of reading.

:)

[N30nbluk]

like mention above i can get it with any stims when takin excessive amounts, had my tongue bleeding before from it swelling and then chewin it lol, i also recommend magnisum tablets cheap as fuck and stops you gurnin as much!

[dwayne_dibley]

Something I've been wondering about. And, please forgive my terrible ignorance. China is well known as a source of fake prodiucts - not sure why they get away with it. So is the 99.8% promise your gettin with mephedrone, methylone and others really guranteed?

That's not a rhetorical question, I'm interested to know what's going on over there! I've had 3 different looking/smellng kinds of meph that all did the same job - so might be only traces of impuritires. And, today receieved some methylone that looks like none I've ever seen! From a trusted source though, so I'm sure its fine! Smells like vanilla - I've read that vannilin can be a precursor to certain drugs so might be left overs from the synth, meaning it hasnt been purified properly! Not scared of vanilla though, its whatever else has been left behind if this has made it from source.

I've got a feeling, and it is only a feeling, gut instinct etc. that all of this is gonna be banned soon, and the factorys are banging out as much as possible while they can.

By the way, I'm really paranoid 100% of the time ;-)

[shizerbeard]

Something I've been wondering about. And, please forgive my terrible ignorance. China is well known as a source of fake prodiucts - not sure why they get away with it. So is the 99.8% promise your gettin with mephedrone, methylone and others really guranteed?

That's not a rhetorical question, I'm interested to know what's going on over there! I've had 3 different looking/smellng kinds of meph that all did the same job - so might be only traces of impuritires. And, today receieved some methylone that looks like none I've ever seen! From a trusted source though, so I'm sure its fine! Smells like vanilla - I've read that vannilin can be a precursor to certain drugs so might be left overs from the synth, meaning it hasnt been purified properly! Not scared of vanilla though, its whatever else has been left behind if this has made it from source.

I've got a feeling, and it is only a feeling, gut instinct etc. that all of this is gonna be banned soon, and the factorys are banging out as much as possible while they can.

By the way, I'm really paranoid 100% of the time ;-)


ive had many many diff types of meph, really stinky stuff, wet clumpy stuff, fluffy white stuff, beige looking stuff, stuff with big rocks, stuff with large crystal granuals, small fine crystals, fine powder etc

all different in smell/consistency/smell but almost all the same in effects. Some may be a bit smoother than others though. Dunno how youd tell what purity was for sure.

[N30nbluk]

ive had many many diff types of meph, really stinky stuff, wet clumpy stuff, fluffy white stuff, beige looking stuff, stuff with big rocks, stuff with large crystal granuals, small fine crystals, fine powder etc

all different in smell/consistency/smell but almost all the same in effects. Some may be a bit smoother than others though. Dunno how youd tell what purity was for sure.

I agree with you on this, but sorry if this comes across rude if you read the other thread it was methylone thats he was enquiring about. which ive only ever seen in near pure white.

[shizerbeard]

I agree with you on this, but sorry if this comes across rude if you read the other thread it was methylone thats he was enquiring about. which ive only ever seen in near pure white.

ah yea, dont think i saw that.

ive had off white/slightly tanned colour m1 once or twice, but only very slightly coloured. Mostly its very white though..

[bull022]

Pseudo ,

I absolutely agree with wghat you said. Everything we put in our bodies has to be detoxed by the liver over yrs the liver does get a good amount of crap in it especially if doing any type of preceription drugs or any drug for that matter .What you desrcibed sounds like a version of a liver flush
With the flush you drink organic apple juice all day eat veery lightly and stop eating early afternoon then that night dribnk some warm epsom, salts around 8 or so then two hours later drink 4oz of organic olive oil mixed in fresh grapefruit juice read one place to use coca cola because it helps not yuke from the oil. Then go to sleep lay on right side .

Next morning when you dump you will see little green pea like balls in your stools this is junk clogging the liver Been awhile since i did a flush might be a good idea to do one may try your way pseudo
I am right now drinking this stuff called holy tea or royal tea you can look it up supposedly really detoxes and cleans the body

Just read your post again pseudo, what you descibe isnt the liver flush but oil pulling yes i read thast over time that really helps clear the body of toxins but I read this slowly generates the organs and glands and cleans them out but that tyou should do this contnually every morning before breakfast for months even if you miss occassionally

Who wrote about the mouth sores i believe they are right didnt even think about that but he is correct as i remem,ber it could come from probs in the digestive tract .I used to take colostrum which had me feeling pretty good which helps heal the digestive system