DMT

[weaselknot]

this is the right section correct?

What the fuck? DMT is weird. Let me give you some background. Acid, literally over 500 times. mesc, 2ci, 2ct2, phenethylamines in general I am well acquainted with. (there's some sort of grammatical error there, I think)

tryptamines. fucking weird. DMT. Really fucking weird. Don't get me wrong, I like to trip, but tryptamines are rather intense for me.

I digress.

What's the most gentle way to experience DMT? Smoking is not for me. I don't like the atomic rocket feeling. Ayahuasca sounds even more difficult- not really into vomit and the like... I'm not new to hallucinogens, but DMT is really odd. theres gotta be a better way. I'd like an oral administration route, no vomit, no stupid aliens (ha ha- kinda), and a preservation of the ego would be nice. any ideas?

[wildguy6969]

this is the right section correct?

What the fuck? DMT is weird. Let me give you some background. Acid, literally over 500 times. mesc, 2ci, 2ct2, phenethylamines in general I am well acquainted with. (there's some sort of grammatical error there, I think)

tryptamines. fucking weird. DMT. Really fucking weird. Don't get me wrong, I like to trip, but tryptamines are rather intense for me.

I digress.

What's the most gentle way to experience DMT? Smoking is not for me. I don't like the atomic rocket feeling. Ayahuasca sounds even more difficult- not really into vomit and the like... I'm not new to hallucinogens, but DMT is really odd. theres gotta be a better way. I'd like an oral administration route, no vomit, no stupid aliens (ha ha- kinda), and a preservation of the ego would be nice. any ideas?


HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO ACID ?

[weaselknot]

it doesn't.. totally different. Its more like shrooms. (psilocybin is (O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dmt) I haven't had good experiences. That's just me though..

[wildguy6969]

it doesn't.. totally different. Its more like shrooms. (psilocybin is (O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dmt) I haven't had good experiences. That's just me though..

that would be kewl better than salvia ?? is it better than lsa ? or more of a kinda head fuck ?

[weaselknot]

smoked, its a bit like salvia- thrown into an intense headspace within seconds. Only lasts about 30 minutes.. that's really the best comparison.

[ezenow]

DMT is DMT

No point taking it if you do not want the DMT experience

"a preservation of the ego would be nice " Use something else

Cheers

[weaselknot]

Yeah, I know.. It is what it is. Guess I'm just getting old, or my preferences are radically different than they were a couple of years ago.

[valseedian]

I had a good source for 5-meo-dmt for a very long time... today I was ready to make another purchase and the site is currently no-existant..

if anyone could point me in the direction of a reputable source, I'd be much obliged.

I have a decent sample of 2c-i, jwh-018 and 073,kratom and personal extractions of salvia (80x+), damiana, siberian motherwart,blue lotus and wild dagg

I'm thinking about combining a few rc's to try to make a better overall experience.. recently I've tried (with previous dosings and combinations of lower size to ensure no cross-activity.
(these experimentations were weighed using a not-so-specific scale hence the large gap in possible weight.

20-25mg 2c-i
11-15 mg jwh-018
22-25 mg jwh-073
80 mg blue lotus extract (made from 22 grams PETALS)
in 1 pill along with 100mg diphenhydramine hci
then at +:45 I dropped ~3 grams of powdered kratom


overall, it was a considerably relaxed trip. normally phenel's make me very jittery and bugged out, but this time I was more relaxed, very warm at the core. at +8:00 I developed a headache (I go to work on drugs always.. my job requires 0 attention, 0 person skills and if I could manage to move in my sleep I'd be able to complete all of my responcibilities at work that way) I always try to keep the first hour of work sober.. so I dropped the first pills right as I was leaving with a 45 minute commute. I'm usually stoned off my ass at work.. I don't have co-workers or a physical boss and in the 3 years I've been with the company I've never had an issue about drugs. Doing work with visual disturbances and muscle relaxers was more tedious than usual, but the complete lack of short term memory made it very easy to forget just how long I'd been instore at the time, greatly curbing my boredom. 2ci seems to be an appetite suppressor, and the jwh's and canabinoid systems all increase my appetite.. so I was decently well off as far as food went, and the same reasons kept me *usually* less nauseous than 2ci alone.

I must also note that I try not to take any oral drugs on a completely empty stomache.. I'm a smaller guy at 140lbs and do tend to have a very high tolerance to everything and take way too much when I do endulge... I'ma write up my 2c-i reports today.. took over 100mg in 1 day 15, then 25 then 60.
on a strange side note, 60mg did not give ANY visuals... and kept me up with jitters for 2 days

[weaselknot]

i had the same experience with 2c-i. above 45 mg it really didn't seem very psychedelic, more speedy and jittery and the visuals were just a shiny film over everything (if you know what I mean).. I had the best experience with about 18-25mg.. time distortion was the shit.

Also, gabapentin seemed to really play very nicely with 2ci. It really pushed some euphoria that was absent with just 2c-i alone.

[wildguy6969]

any one try smoking yopo seed ? i know they have dmt in them ...
u gotta flame the shell or somthing and crumbles up .

any one try this in a bong ????

[valseedian]

i had the same experience with 2c-i. above 45 mg it really didn't seem very psychedelic, more speedy and jittery and the visuals were just a shiny film over everything (if you know what I mean).. I had the best experience with about 18-25mg.. time distortion was the shit.

Also, gabapentin seemed to really play very nicely with 2ci. It really pushed some euphoria that was absent with just 2c-i alone.

the kratom I took added the euphoria that was definitly required, been thinking recently of investing in some bk-mdma to add to the 2c-i and jw's

gotta say, can't do 2c-i two days in a row... no visuals at all.

never heard of neurontin before, but I'm prolly going to order some.

[TheNorthKingdom]

smoked, its a bit like salvia- thrown into an intense headspace within seconds. Only lasts about 30 minutes.. that's really the best comparison.

My buddy just ordered 1g of 5-meo-dmt and I might want to try a small hit, but if you say its abit like salvia - HELL NO. Salvia gives me a very bad body feeling and mindfuck. I thought dmt was alot different and with alot of visuals - not like salvia!?

[cker]

any one try smoking yopo seed ? i know they have dmt in them ...
u gotta flame the shell or somthing and crumbles up .

any one try this in a bong ????

Yopos most dominant active chemical is 5-HO-DMT (Bufotenin) SWIM has tried on a few occasions smokig didnt really hit the spot all that was achieved was hot flushes and slight change in perception.

Snuffing this was the way to do it but damn did it HURT!! worst thing to put up your nose it puffed up half of SWIMs face on a couple of occasions. You mix the stuff inside the seed with lime to turn the chemicals into there basic form so they are active up the nose. You roast them to remove shell and turn them crumbly.

The high has strong body buzz (Which can be a bit annoying), euphoric, CEVs were obvious, colours were more pronounced and music sounded more complex in some way.

The only limitation is trying to stick tonnes of powder up your noes to get a decent ride SWIM would normally use both nostrils lol

SWIM have a trip report on the tripme forums if i am alowed to refer to this??

[Pandy]

heya cker, post up the tripme link or do a cut'n'paste.

[cker]

Sweet thought illd ask first lol

http://tripme.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=374&highlight=yopo

[robertnesta]

What's the most gentle way to experience DMT?

Take an MAO-Inhibitor orally, which may cause al little nausea. Wait for like 30min up to an hour. Smoke a very small dose of DMT, like 1 or 2 mgs. Dont inhale all at once.
This way the experience will last longer than without an MAO-Inhibitor and you will be able to dose slowly up to where you wanna get.
But again, theres no point in taking DMT if you dont want an ego-death.

@TheNorthKingdom
DMT is not like salvia and 5-meo-dmt is not like dmt. I experience 5-meo-dmt as much less visual than dmt.

[Montgolfier]

My buddy just ordered 1g of 5-meo-dmt and I might want to try a small hit, but if you say its abit like salvia - HELL NO. Salvia gives me a very bad body feeling and mindfuck. I thought dmt was alot different and with alot of visuals - not like salvia!?

Don't get 5-meo-dmt confused with DMT (nn-DMT) they are from the same 'family' but very different effects. 5Meo is like dying literally, your mind is exploded and a million questions rage through your brain, it's not really very visual - amazing but can be very frightening.

NN-DMT on the other hand can be an amazing euphoric experience where you are shown something that seems external to your own imagination, of course bad trips still happen if care is not taken.

That's my experience anyway. :)

[samson smith]

i had the same experience with 2c-i. above 45 mg it really didn't seem very psychedelic, more speedy and jittery and the visuals were just a shiny film over everything (if you know what I mean).. I had the best experience with about 18-25mg.. time distortion was the shit.

Also, gabapentin seemed to really play very nicely with 2ci. It really pushed some euphoria that was absent with just 2c-i alone.

Wow! very nice experience, thanks for sharing!!