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Dr.Juice
04-03-2009, 11:29 PM
31/03/2009 - 17:27:22
The stimulant drug BZP which is promoted as a legal alternative to ecstasy and amphetamines was banned today by the Government.

The man-made chemical pills – sometimes wrongly referred to as Herbal E – are widely available in so-called head shops, which specialise in drug paraphernalia.
Ireland follows the lead of several other EU countries where BZP has already been declared a controlled drug, although it remains legal throughout Britain.

Health Minister Mary Harney said the drug had now been brought under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1977.

“This will now make the possession of BZP illegal and make sure that BZP is no longer available for sale in head shops around the country, which has been an issue of concern to my department and the wider public,” she said.

Ms Harney’s department acted after a recommendation from the EU last March that the psychoactive substance come under control measures and criminal provisions.

EU concerns followed a European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction report that found the use of BZP can lead to various medical problems.

While the long-term effects remain unknown, it has been associated with vomiting, anxiety, insomnia, mood swings and seizures.

The mood-affecting drug, also known as party pills, Legal X, XTC and piperazine, was originally developed in a UK laboratory in 1944 as a worming treatment for cattle.

It was never widely used in the agricultural sector because it caused some animals to have fits.

Jim Bellamy, co-owner of the Nirvana chain of head shops which has outlets in Ireland, UK, New Zealand and Australia, said the move would turn people to other illegal drugs.

“My only concern is the stupidity of the authorities, because now people who can’t get BZP will turn back to illegal drugs and they will die. There’s no question about it,” he said.

Although the ban came as no surprise to Mr Bellamy, he hit out at the lack of any advance notice, which he said had left head shop-owners confused about the drug’s legal status.

“I’m waiting to verify what the position is and if it is illegal then of course I will remove everything from my premises and won’t sell it anymore,” he said.

“But I thought it would be courtesy for the authorities to let us know.”

A Health Department spokesman said the law will be enforced in the normal way, and it was likely that gardaí will notify traders that they have to remove the products from sale.

:eek:

Mona Lisa
04-03-2009, 11:31 PM
That's no good for you, is it. All I can think is that maybe you could try a Canadian website but don't know if they mail to the states since bzp is fully scheduled there.

Dr.Juice
04-03-2009, 11:38 PM
some one i know used to send it from ireland to friends in uk and have them post it here...
I couldnt figure out why yki wouldnt respond to me emails about my order that got shipped to the wrong address... Guess im out $80.

Mona Lisa
04-04-2009, 05:57 AM
I think it absolutely sucks for you. I'm sure the upcoming ban had something to do with it and, yet, you'd think they could have been generous and even given you some extra bits, especially as they weren't going to be able to sell it anymore. Who knows. Perhaps they've just packed the whole game in. I think it stinks though. You have my sympathy.

Dr.Juice
04-05-2009, 05:36 AM
toobler on fuckled felt bad and posted me a gram of meph, so I'm only out $50 now. If i can score another two grams from my friend starting an rc venor then it wont suck as bad.
I contacted bushmaster about yki and he said they wont reply to his emails and they owe him for IT work.
I wonder what they did with all those pills? Fucken partied their bzp asses off or just threw em out?

alexAmphetamine
04-05-2009, 04:35 PM
and the rumour going around that other piperazines were banned in the UK too.
otherwise why did ali bongo get rid of all their piperazine based pills by the 1st of march.
maybe the other piperazines (excluding bzp) are only illegal to sell and not possess and import.

"Piperazine and salts of piperazine are classified as Prescription Only Medicines in the UK. Any products containing salts of piperazine would be licensable under the Medicines Act[39] and consequently anyone manufacturing and supplying it legally must hold the relevant licenses to do so."

found on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine

http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1t556-current-legal-status-piperazines

selling any piperazines without a licence in the uk, is now illegal.


doesn't say anywhere if possession and importing is legal:
whether tfmpp, mbzp,meopp, mcpp,pfpp is legal or not in the uk.

i guess possession of tfmpp for example is legal in the uk as the herbal highs site says that.

http://www.herbalhighs.com/info/tfmpp_legal_status.aspx

ShaggyMaengDa
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
toobler on fuckled felt bad and posted me a gram of meph, so I'm only out $50 now.

Toobler's a really spot on guy. He helped loads of people out on champs before. I once bunged him a bit of kratom when he was a bit down, about 2 quids worth, and he bunged me a g of meph as thanks. There's not enough people like him about. He restores your faith in humanity.

Just thought I'd point out that this wasn't a one off.:)