Truffles ......

[wildguy6969]

any one know about these ? they seemed to be able to ship to canada ! iherd they grow under or around other mushrooms ...i forget !
and i herd they make you trip .

[mushroom_john]

hmm, make sure you have the right fungus. Truffles are a gourmet fungus used in high end restaurants, they use pigs to sniff for them as they grow underground.

There is a magic mushroom some refer to as philosophers truffles, they aren't as amazing as people make out, just harder to grow, and more expensive to buy. Hope it helps.

It is not easy to find suppliers as the UK and Holland banned sale.

[durd1e]

I would heartily recommend the mexicana or tampanensis truffles.

Basically the truffles are sclerotia formed by mushrooms when condition for growth are bad. These little chunks protect the mushrooms underground so they are not killed off by frost etc.

I'm not sure if you can get them into Canada (I am unfamiliar with the law their)...by and large they are not actually included in the legislation banning other form of mushrooms. However, as I said, I would recommend them - more colourful and slightly calmer experience than the cubensis mushrooms.

[mushroom_john]

I would heartily recommend the mexicana or tampanensis truffles.

Basically the truffles are sclerotia formed by mushrooms when condition for growth are bad. These little chunks protect the mushrooms underground so they are not killed off by frost etc.

I'm not sure if you can get them into Canada (I am unfamiliar with the law their)...by and large they are not actually included in the legislation banning other form of mushrooms. However, as I said, I would recommend them - more colourful and slightly calmer experience than the cubensis mushrooms.

with respect - that's slightly inaccurate, and it depends entirely on the conditions they are grown in, most notably pH of the myc substrate, it varies batch to batch and the "species" are questionable in the extreme, there's a whole lot of money to be made from people making up strains, just like weed.

Shrooms are easy come by, truffles too, although shrooms are best. Recent bans mean little

[durd1e]

I'm not talking about the growboxes but in the wild. A whole different set of conditions are relevant in growbox conditions. (in fairness though there is very little to go on with wild truffles - the amount of samples collected in the wild are in the single digits so I may well be talking out my arse).

Is the strain not psilocybe mexicana (not to be confused with p. cubensis mexicana)?

[mushroom_john]

the content of (depending on what you you grow) Psilocybin vs Psilocin varies massively with conditions, mostly the nutrients needed for the myc to fruit up or encapsulate the active compounds. The ratio of these compounds effects the trip. This mostly comes down to substrate and pH.

Growers make up new strains all the time to keep business alive, forums like this perpetuate it. There's less than 200 actual strains known to be active, but an average mushroom forum might discuss 400 "species" of cubes. Every time they see a mutation the spore print goes around and a new name comes out.

Hoping that Psilocybin is legal after shrooms being banned regardless of state is a bit of a joke, those guys are cashing in quick and will duck and dive. It's not a loophole, it's a mushroom that holds a drug.

Trip reports are so subjective, and experienced guys don't bother posting, so you are caught in the capitalism of buying new 'strains' all the time.

[durd1e]

Very true that psilocybin and psilocin ratios vary with each crop - psilocin is very very unstable and can be broken down by direct sunlight or contact with air -when it oxidises it turns blue hence blue meanies (a strong form of mushie - copelandia cyanescens). TBH I have found the truffles to be more predictable strength than any mushroom, though. 15g of truffles does the job. Reliably.

[mushroom_john]

again, a bit of forum lore rather than real life info, cyanescens is not actually recognised by most mycologists and they believe it to be another species of Copelandia which have been renamed by guys who sell mushroom spore and mushrooms to make more money. We've run grows of "CC" from spore brought from supposedly reputable suppliers, and found a spread of psilocin levels, with strong ones in some cases and less so in others, dependant entirely on grow conditions.

Sorry bud, not being mean, just seeing the same info made up by shops perpetuated again on forums with the odd silly little table or reference thrown in and it's frustrating watching an industry rip apart the truth.