Any1 want to help me with a bit of research?

[jeebs1988]

Hi guys, I'm a final year student in Queens uni belfast, I'm doing a dissertation on legal highs and need a few true stoners to tell me how great legal highs are rather than what the media says about them. If u wanna help me out that's b great, leave me a message or a question and i'll get back to u soon

[wildguy6969]

coffee and booze are great legal highs :D

[introverted]

it's a shame you don't post here more often, otherwise i'd be more obliged to spill it


but, coffee and booze are really great legal highs, so THAR U GO, sry, kthnx

[holdout]

hehe make sure you include the FACT that almost all media reports of pleasurable recreational drugs are highly-biased with unrealistic claims by secondary sources. WE are primary sources as we take a ride on these things pretty much on a weekly basis. I for one am a perfectly healthy individual after over a year of using, and i get very upset when I read false claims in the media about how "this or that drug causes this side-effect and that side-effect". it's as though they take one of those prescription drug commercials where a narrative voice reads all the legal fine print "side-effects include nausea, diarrhea, bla bla bla" and goes on to list a million things, except with the media they take each of those side-effects and blow them up as though you WILL get them FULL ON, which is so aggravating and untrue. you can take any such press story and replace every occurrence of the psychoactive compound with something common like "table salt" and it would make no difference how pathetic their story is.

[DavAth_Dionysus]

Legal highs... booze, ciggies, caffiene... thereere grrrreeeaat!

[Mona Lisa]

hehe make sure you include the FACT that almost all media reports of pleasurable recreational drugs are highly-biased with unrealistic claims by secondary sources. WE are primary sources as we take a ride on these things pretty much on a weekly basis. I for one am a perfectly healthy individual after over a year of using, and i get very upset when I read false claims in the media about how "this or that drug causes this side-effect and that side-effect". it's as though they take one of those prescription drug commercials where a narrative voice reads all the legal fine print "side-effects include nausea, diarrhea, bla bla bla" and goes on to list a million things, except with the media they take each of those side-effects and blow them up as though you WILL get them FULL ON, which is so aggravating and untrue. you can take any such press story and replace every occurrence of the psychoactive compound with something common like "table salt" and it would make no difference how pathetic their story is.


This is so true. But I still feel that people on forums like this are in the minority in that we fully research everything before we try it. Now that these legals (RCs) are being mass-marketed, there are far more irresponsible and underage people taking them and it's now causing overdoses and adverse reactions.

I'm no longer so sure that I feel completely comfortable with all this stuff remaining legally available; it was far better when things were still a lot more low-key and below the radar. It's all gotten far too out of hand.

[jeebs1988]

You've some great thoughts and insights into 'legal highs' guys. From a study of media coverage over the last decade i've found an explosion of reporting on 'legal highs' in just the last year. I'm going to show in my dissertation that the media simply jump on a topic like 'legal highs' and it feeds on itself until calls are made to the government to do something about this 'recent' problem when infact they've been being used for many years. would you agree?

I feel it's going to be really important to get people's views who have experience with these things rather and compare them to the under researched and singularly sourced media reports that our out there so I really appreciate your feedback guys!

[enduin]

Personally I think that the less is known about so-called "legal highs", the better. Trying to show how much bullshit is in media coverage about this stuff is just like tilting at windmills. Even if you could show the facts in a very scientific and proper way, you'd need to explain how pleasurable some substances are. This will cause more attention from the authorities and concern about banning. Or/and interest from people who would use them in a wrong way and get them banned, the result is always the same.
Look what happened with kava, a super-safe plant that people in Vanuatu island used for centuries, then a pharma firm started to sell it for insomnia and anxiety but instead of using the roots only (like indigenous have always done) they started using the whole plant (for making more money), which contains toxic compound in the leaves. Results? People got harmed, kava got banned. Or with meph: it got known, became easy to buy, kids started eating shitloads of it and harm theirself, now is getting banned all around the world.

If things are not widely known and hard to obtain, this will work as a kind of test: if you are willing to go through the research and spend time to understand what they are and how to get them, it's is quite likely that you'll know what you are doing and avoid to act irresponsibly. People with the wrong attitude, the ones "It feels good, so I'll eat shitloads of it no matter what it is and what it does to me, and will mix it with everything I got handy" usually don't have the will to spend hours researching, reading, asking, waiting. I don't think everything is for everyone, sorry but that's my point of view.
Also I quite agree with Mona about the fact that some RCs getting illegal is not that bad cause things are really out of control now. BUT on the other hand I think that with those banned, new ones would surely rise, and maybe even more harmful. And they'd be new, so no info on what they do on long term. I really got this feeling that substances taking place of illegal ones are almost always more dangerous than the ones they substituted.
Best would be if things went back to underwater status, but doubt it's possible at this point...

[Ebony]

This is so true. But I still feel that people on forums like this are in the minority in that we fully research everything before we try it. Now that these legals (RCs) are being mass-marketed, there are far more irresponsible and underage people taking them and it's now causing overdoses and adverse reactions.

I'm no longer so sure that I feel completely comfortable with all this stuff remaining legally available; it was far better when things were still a lot more low-key and below the radar. It's all gotten far too out of hand.

So true, under the radar email sources were so much better.

[FriendlyToker]

We are already illegal. We contain DMT.

[holdout]

This is so true. But I still feel that people on forums like this are in the minority in that we fully research everything before we try it. Now that these legals (RCs) are being mass-marketed, there are far more irresponsible and underage people taking them and it's now causing overdoses and adverse reactions.

I'm no longer so sure that I feel completely comfortable with all this stuff remaining legally available; it was far better when things were still a lot more low-key and below the radar. It's all gotten far too out of hand.
ML always quotes my stuff :cool: nuff said

LOL :D

anyway i think we need to put pressure on vendors with their packaging to help these non-researchers a bit... like.... we could boycott buying from a vendor until they say HOW MUCH to ummm..... feed plants.... hehe.

and yea i agree with you in that this really is a highly-educated niche of responsible people. At least with the help of the Internet people as young as in their early teens to as old as old can be, are stumbling upon resources that EDUCATE them about harm minimization. If there's something undeniable amongst everybody it's this: If a kid has the INTENT of experimenting with psychoactives, they WILL seek it out whether it be on the street from a bastard that sells them lethal toxins, or from a reputable online vendor that sells more or less something in pure form. It's communities like these that let people know: "Hey! Okay if you're gonna do what you're gonna do, at least learn your options and learn how to do it without getting hospitalized or even dying!"

But alas even communities like these are getting outlawed country by country by country :D It's becoming rather conspiratorial really-- as though governments WANT kids to die....



We are already illegal. We contain DMT.
SO true :D Here's a good headline for a scientific community: "We banned DMT? Then why not melatonin as well? Both are endogenous!"

hehehe...

[FriendlyToker]

Why not ban serotonin? It causes happy. Happy = bad. And, over all, why not dopamine? It's so much the cause of any addiction, the core of every filthy drug addict. BAN IT!

*makes a transparent and walks down the road*

[jeebs1988]

Hey guys it's been a while since I was last on this forum and i'm sorry. I've been doing plenty of research since and i'm now at the stage of my project where i want to start collecting data. Would any1 be interested in taking part in an interview via MSN or some other 1-1 online interview?

Of course all information will be fully anonymous and all data collected will be used solely in my dissertation for my Criminology Degree in Queens University Belfast.

If anyone's interested drop me an email at jeebs1988@hotmail.co.uk or post a thread on here, thanks guys it's primary source data like this that fights the media portrayals being fed to the public.

[ublaszko]

Hi!

I'm a final year student and doing my research on legal high use as well :P How's it going? Just out of curiosity, are you doing quantitative or qualitative research? Are you replicating Dalgarno (2007)?

Good luck! ;)

Ursula

[paulinephiliphs]

If things are not widely known and hard to obtain, this will work as a kind of test: if you are willing to go through the research and spend time to understand what they are and how to get them, it's is quite likely that you'll know what you are doing and avoid to act irresponsibly.

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