MDMA / Hallucinogen pemanant brain changes

[mrjynxx]

So who thinks that the likes of the psychedelic amphetamines (MDMA etc) and the more classic hallucinogens (shrooms, mesc, acid etc) permanently change your brain chemistry?

For example, Im sitting here bored at work on a Monday morning, listening to some music. Someone sent me some emotive classical music (not really my thing) to listen to, which has proven to be fantastic, especially on a Monday morning.

The interesting thing is that this emotive music, with it's peaks and troughs, gives me the same kind of tingly buzz as I get coming up off mandy (which I haven't touched in a good 4 years). It's like my brain has been conditioned to react to good music by soaking itself in serotonin.. Obviously only whilst the music is playing and for a few minutes afterwards, but still.. All those years ago, before I took all these mind alterants, that never would have happened..

Anyone else get anything like this? It ain't a placebo, it really does feel like coming up on something, buzzy, sweating a bit and all that. Not that Im complaining, if this is brain damage then it's GOOD brain damage!! :D Very interesting though that it can have this effect on my psyche without there being any actually catalyst in my system other than music..

[ezenow]

Yup

Over the years definitely changed my perceptions, outlook on life and experiences.

These have not just happened through mind altering products but also from traveling, reading, meeting people etc. All these things "expand rewire" the mind so that the "now" experience is related and filtered through past experiences/ knowledge.

Brain / mind is such an underused forgotten gift, the best ever.

[perfect haze]

only in the same way any othe life experience does. not in any hideous organic damage sense of the sentence.

[Mona Lisa]

So who thinks that the likes of the psychedelic amphetamines (MDMA etc) and the more classic hallucinogens (shrooms, mesc, acid etc) permanently change your brain chemistry?

For example, Im sitting here bored at work on a Monday morning, listening to some music. Someone sent me some emotive classical music (not really my thing) to listen to, which has proven to be fantastic, especially on a Monday morning.

The interesting thing is that this emotive music, with it's peaks and troughs, gives me the same kind of tingly buzz as I get coming up off mandy (which I haven't touched in a good 4 years). It's like my brain has been conditioned to react to good music by soaking itself in serotonin.. Obviously only whilst the music is playing and for a few minutes afterwards, but still.. All those years ago, before I took all these mind alterants, that never would have happened..

Anyone else get anything like this? It ain't a placebo, it really does feel like coming up on something, buzzy, sweating a bit and all that. Not that Im complaining, if this is brain damage then it's GOOD brain damage!! :D Very interesting though that it can have this effect on my psyche without there being any actually catalyst in my system other than music..

I can get this from a good film too :)

[FUBAR]

So who thinks that the likes of the psychedelic amphetamines (MDMA etc) and the more classic hallucinogens (shrooms, mesc, acid etc) permanently change your brain chemistry?

For example, Im sitting here bored at work on a Monday morning, listening to some music. Someone sent me some emotive classical music (not really my thing) to listen to, which has proven to be fantastic, especially on a Monday morning.

The interesting thing is that this emotive music, with it's peaks and troughs, gives me the same kind of tingly buzz as I get coming up off mandy (which I haven't touched in a good 4 years). It's like my brain has been conditioned to react to good music by soaking itself in serotonin.. Obviously only whilst the music is playing and for a few minutes afterwards, but still.. All those years ago, before I took all these mind alterants, that never would have happened..
Anyone else get anything like this? It ain't a placebo, it really does feel like coming up on something, buzzy, sweating a bit and all that. Not that Im complaining, if this is brain damage then it's GOOD brain damage!! :D Very interesting though that it can have this effect on my psyche without there being any actually catalyst in my system other than music..

Most definitely...whenever I hear good trippy trance music, especially when it's coming to a crescendo, I start to feel the same 'tingly buzz' of MDMA - it's not just the music because I never felt this before trying XTC. Even though I know it's just a result of association & conditioning it feels strong enough to believe I've actually taken something. Ditto with stuff like Ozric Tentacles or Steve Hillage - then the mushrooms in me wake up and go for a journey round my brain for a few seconds (this is the closest I've ever come to the mythical 'flashbacks' though).

[69Ron]

This kind of thing wears off. At least for SWIM it does. After many years of psychedelic use you simply get used to it. It doesn't have nearly the impact it did the first time. Songs will no longer bring on the feeling of a psychedelic for SWIM. Those days are long gone. Songs that used to do that now sound un-psychedelic, almost like watching a movie you used to love as a child and then watching it many years later and wondering why in the world you even liked that movie in the first place.

I think a lot of this is all in the mind. The mind can at any given time alter your perception of things without the use of drugs. Mental associations also change over time. Someone or something you once loved, could become something you no longer care for. It's all in how you perceive things. As you age your perception changes.