Metoprolol - betablocker help needed!

[FriendlyToker]

hello! I have ingested a stimulant which is now causing my heart to race. High pressure and 160bpm. I have Metoprolol in 50mg tablets. I need it to slow down the heart rate as quickly as possible - how should I ingest it? Into the nose? How much? Would it absorb that way? if not - how much oral? Any other ways? Help needed, sorry for the rush, but my heart is gonna explode if I don't do anything.

[scudinvi]

I'm not sure if this will help, at the same time very becareful.

DOSING: Metoprolol should be taken before meals or at bedtime. The dose for treating hypertension is 100-450 mg daily in single or divided doses. Angina is treated with 100-400 mg daily in two divided doses. Acute myocardial infarction is treated with three 5 mg injections administered 2 minutes apart followed by treatment with 50 mg oral metoprolol every 6 hours for 48 hours. After 48 hours, patients should receive 100 mg orally twice daily for at least 3 months.

If I were you, I would just ride it out though, taking something else to counteract those symptoms without consulting a doctor could cause more problems. My 2 cents.

[scudinvi]

You mind disclosing the stimulant you took?

[FriendlyToker]

I hatched 50mg's, gonna do a beer, then maybe use zolpidem - of course, with the most care in the world. I know about substances, I have confidence in my knowledge - but I prefer to know more than die. I will not move that much, try to lay down and put my legs up so the brain gets more oxygenated blood.

I am curious about the plants that are used in treating high blood pressure - I have heard about one (called, as far as I see in the dictionary, "Maytree", or "English hawthorn" and "Crataegus") that dilates the blood vessels and lowers the blood pressure. Do you know about it? Is it any effective? Are there any other that could help (now or in the future)?



The Stimulant I took? Let no man wonder no more: IVORY WAVE BATH SALTS IS SHIT! Half a 0.2 pckg and quarter of a Ministry pill (which, to be honest, never worked for me in doses less than a half - dunno why I wasted that quarter though).

[scudinvi]

It's such a funny thing, before you started this one I read a thread on the DF
which read "Heart going crazy after Ivory Wave snorting powder. Help"

That seems to be some strong stuff. I was curious about it, now I know i'll past on that one for sure.

How're you making out?

[FriendlyToker]

THIS IS HELL not a stimulant. The betablocker helped alot - after one - and half - an hour everything came back to normal and I could enjoy the very shitty stimulation this thing gives. WHY WOULD I WANT TO BUY A STIMULANT THAT AFTER HALF A PACK MAKES MY HEART GO SO BAD I CAN'T EVEN STAND UP WITHOUT FREAKING OUT?
Thank you, I have enough of it. ;)

[Mona Lisa]

Glad you're ok, I must admit I was rather concerned for you. Please flush that shit down the toilet!

[enduin]

That's something weird in the whole thing: you made the post about Ivory Salts being shit and making your heart racing too much two days ago in the Ivory thread, don't tell me that you are having the racing heart since then???

Regarding a plant for lowering heart pression I heard very good things about mulungu 95% alkaloidal extract; it's said to be a very good sedative also. Still have to tr it...

Anyway I'm really glad you are fine now mate! That was some serious shit you went through...

[Mona Lisa]

Enduin, I think he may have tried it on a couple of separate occasions. :confused:

[Toela65]

Talking of blood pressure and Vasoconstriction with stims (in particular Meph), I'm on Opiate pain killers for degenrative discs in my back, I was reading up on them and I laerned that opiates can cause blood pressure to lower and vasodialation.

Would there be any harm in mixing opiates (only small amount) IF and WHEN the vasoconstriction/BP/BPM gets a bit out of control and you are getting the purple knees etc. I have been looking at several things for the pain in the arse side effects of Meph (mainly Vasoconstriction) found some good sites selling beta blockers and other cardiovascular meds that could help with this. If I get them or find anything out I will post my results.

[enduin]

Yeah that's what I was thinkin Mona, but then I said nah if the first time he got a hell of problems how could he do the stuff again? Or could he :confused::confused:

Toela, don't think opiates are the best choice for dealing with vasocostriction... I think the best ones are beta-blockers, then benzos (in particular the miorelaxant ones). I'm also looking into vasodilator like arginine (was talking with Ash about that in another thread) and nitroglycerine (both act through n2o, but nitroglycerine should be much better and is used medically).
Anyway if you are getting purple knees or stuff like that I'd strongly suggest to stop taking meph at all!

[Toela65]

Message received and understood. I have decided to quit until I find an effective way of combatting the vasoconstriction. O thought about l-arginine but read another thread saying using this with Meph would be extremely dangerous?

I have found a cheap uk site that sell a whole array of cardiovascular meducations (the calcium ones, beta blockers such as Propranolol etc) and I have a basically inlimited supply of Xanax, Valium and a smaller supply of Clonazepam and a couple of others I'vw forgotten.

I'm wonndering dropping a short acting benzo with a short half life (such as Xanax) before taking Meph could solve the Meph problem? I have Propranolol on its way so maybe taken these first as a preventative measure might do the trick?

I have been told good things about the supplement Taurine too?

What are peoples thoughts on all this as you are all more experienced than me lol!!

[enduin]

Wise decision mate!
It was me and another member arguing about meph and arginine, I think it's perfectly ok, he thinks it's dangerous...

Anyway, dropping benzos before meph would dull your meph experience, not a big deal. Benzos should be dropped when meph wears off but you are still stimulated, so you can fall asleep, your muscles relax and heart too. If you can choose probably Valium is the best because of greater muscle relaxant properties. It has a much longer halflife tho, so treat it with respect. Oh and you are pretty damn lucky to have such supply! Is it an online source you got or something different?

Also dropping beta-blockers before is not the way to go IMHO, they are meant to reduce heart rate and blood pressure, so I'd just keep them handy if your heart start to race too much or pressure to rise.

My suggestion is take a break and do a month or two on arginine (and exercise if you don't) to relax and dilate blood vessels. This is what I'm gonna do. Then stop arginine, take your meph and see what happens with your gear ready if something goes wrong. If you still have problems then maybe meph is just not for you.

All above is just IMHO and I'm not a medic

[Toela65]

Thanks for the reply mate very wise words. Yeh all the meds I have are from online sources. PM me and I can drop you some links if you need any of the stuff I've spoken off. The Cardiovascular stuff appears to be pretty reasonable, the benzo's are a lot dearer but you get a good supply of them.