Kanna (Sceletium tortuosum)

[AtomicBambinoid]

I thought id start a thread about kanna, I think its a pretty cool substance. I bought a 5 gram bag off of champs, i tried snorting it, making tea, smoking it and just tonight vapourising it. Some people say that it has a reverse tolerance/cumulative effect and u may not experience the high the first few goes, this wasnt the case with me. i snorted 2 little bumps and i felt sedated and energised at the same time, i had very mild rushs like mdma, more relaxed, talkative, much more at ease wandering around town, i guess it felt like serotonin rushs also, but it really isnt anywhere near as powerful as mdma, dont let the comparison mislead you. smoking seemed to be much more sedating and when i was making tea i had been smoking it throughout the day aswell, and it seemed that the more i took the more sedated i became, not energised. But this evening i put a pinch in the old vape-omatic glass bulbarizor and it really reminds me of when i used to smoke ganja and the sedated content feeling, just been playing my guitar and it enhanced that experience, i was really mellowed out, which is great for me because ive been looking for a weed substitute for this very purpose for ages. In fact the more i think about this substance the more i like it.

anyone else got their 10p to chip in on the subject and then eventually well have a wealthy resource!! hoorah!!!

[valseedian]

I've thought about this ethno for a while.... ordered it once, but couldn't end up paying for it.. so I took it off the list cause I wanted other things more.. the other things were horrid failures.. I should hvae asked around.

[dave777]

Ah thanks for starting this thread.

As money is scarce for me, I just use it as a straightner, rather than a mood uplifter.
I am not keen on snorting it, due to the sneezes and brown lumpy stuff going on in the nasal area, but I put it in chewy or under my lips.
I dont think I hold it in long enough though, so end up swallowing after about five mins
Champs kanna is pharma grade, Ive got it as well.

look foreward to hearing more posts on kanna
:cool:

[mgldude]

I've tried snorting it, but I couldn't get much results. Have tried mixing it with weed, couldn't really pinpoint the effects. Tried it with a cup of coffee and also put a pinch under my tongue and it finally worked. I can't say that I really enjoyed the effects though, as I had some kind of weird tension in the back of my head. There were some rushes and tingles, but the weird tension in the back of my head really canceled out the positives. I haven't used it lately at all. It seems to be good at alleviating anxiety attacks though.

[AtomicBambinoid]

Does anyone know the answer to this question, u see im sure i heard someone on champs say it was an ssri or worked like an ssri, so does anybody know if thats true or not?

[Bali Muncher Jim]

Does anyone know the answer to this question, u see im sure i heard someone on champs say it was an ssri or worked like an ssri, so does anybody know if thats true or not?

I think so, or like u say it acts like one. I'm not overly clever about technical stuff but Im sure that you need to be carefull of mixing ssri's and the other one meo... I've forgotton the name.

Have you tried kratom? I find it a good replacement for weed.

[AtomicBambinoid]

Hmm yeah mixing ssri's and maoi's and other ssri's and 5 htp complex screws around with serotonin production and reuptake, im just wandering because if im taking kanna daily and then i get some methylone or take something like 5-htp complex whats gonna happen. I heard something on Champs that it was an ssri or ssri like, but on erowid there isnt anything.

yeah i tried kratom lol and it doesnt affect me, seems like opiates dont affect me or kratom....i was pretty pissed for a while after having to give up ganja and then my most promising substitute failed to work.

[shatteredparadigm]

It's so strange that it's an SSRI. It's the only SSRI that I'm aware of which has recreational potential. Plus, don't they usually take several weeks before positive effects are noticed? :confused:

[AtomicBambinoid]

Yeah i thats what i gather too, and i didnt think ssri were even very pleasurable, but also i dont even know if kanna is an actual ssri or just like them or what thats what im asking i guess.

[iodei]

yeah i tried kratom lol and it doesnt affect me, seems like opiates dont affect me or kratom....i was pretty pissed for a while after having to give up ganja and then my most promising substitute failed to work.

Don't worry bud. Im the same way. Had an ounce of kratom all to myself (after 2 previous half ounces which failed one as a tea one as the toss and swish meathod.) And all three times I just tried to pretend I was high and then threw up. Except the third time. I didn't throw up. I'm sitting here right now sorta bummed out that my shit isnt coming in the mail till friday =\
Also. If youre looking for a weed substitute and want to get something that just works while youre looking for cheaper/better/from friends (or this site) stuff, try spice (i dont know if they ship to the US cause of some customs problem) or spike 99 from spiceworld420, thats what I did for the past 2 weeks till i planted my garden and I never have to rely on mail again.

FYI, from my somewhat short, but relatively correct way of thought... I made a lil pond in my backyard and planted a bunch of blue lily(blue lotus) same shit pretty much. and well... best investment ever. They grow super fast and they just overwhelm your pond if you do it right. However, on top of that, I havent actually tried smoking blue lotus yet. But if its what people say. Im psyked. Mixed with wild dagga it should be pretty good. Also.. that cp - something chemical... its the shit. Just take a pinch (or two if youre excited) and sprinkle it on any blend over 5gm (so its not too concentrated) and youll have a great time. I had a shitty small joint of baybean pineapple sage and skullcap, my friend got let me sprinkle like barely any cp(w.e) on it. I had, debatedly, a better experience than MJ.

I wrote alot. Im not sure why. maybe that kratom worked? meh....

EDIT- pineapple sage doesnt do anything. Its just pretty awesome smoking a pineapple....

[dave777]

Kanna rocks.

I'm just about to start a course of mirtazapine and don't think I can take kanna while on that.
I'm not sure though, as I have never heard anyone who has taken these two together.
Still, it'll be there waiting for me, after the mirtazapine has done its job and I no longer need to pop the little orange pills.

[TheNorthKingdom]

Can anyone tell the effects of this substance? Is it worth trying? Is there any euphoria?

[GOA]

Someone who has little or no experience with psychoactives will probably find some recreational value with Kanna. The rest will probably find it too weak. Personally, kanna gives me anxiety similar to long-term cannabis use... the exact opposite of what it's supposed to do. I've smoked it and taken it orally (insufflation not my thing). Sorta gives the body a warm tingle, but otherwise I don't care much for it.


Pharmacology basically supports that the major alkaloid in Kanna, Mesembrine, is a potent serotonin-specific reuptake inhibitor (SSRI). Is apparently more potent than some older prescription anti-depressants. Kanna should not be combined with other SSRIs, MAOIs, or cardiac medication whatsoever.


So, if you're looking for a 'natural' anti-depressant, this is about the only purpose it has. Though please share any experiences with Kanna and your method of ingestion, as I still have interest in this plant.

[dave777]

I found that kanna was an excellent straightner.
If my nerves got too frayed, a bit of kanna in my chewing gum, or placed between lip and cheek, or a pinch in a rolly, would be as good, if not better than 5mg valium.

i'm on mirtazapine now, been on it 9 days.
It's not an ssri, but I dont know if I can take kanna.
Been sent a free bag of fermented pharm kanna too.

[GOA]

Was recently sent a sample of a mutated strain of sceletium. Apparently has three new compounds in it. Very promising. I'll post more info if interested.

[buriedalivee]

I'm interested in hearing more about kanna

[wildguy6969]

Was recently sent a sample of a mutated strain of sceletium. Apparently has three new compounds in it. Very promising. I'll post more info if interested.

that sounds kewl!!