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fedete
03-14-2009, 08:04 AM
Hi! I love this forum it's a very nice upgrade from champ's one.
Back to bussiness...
Last week I ordered 10 x Spice Diamond and 8 x Ex-Ses Platinum (a big fat order!!!for re stocking purpose only), I'm still waiting to arrive...But today searching some info about JWH-018 compound I found a pretty interesting web site (it's not spam!!!) with this PDF article:

http://www.caymanchem.com/pdfs/13169.pdf

And I have one BIG concern!!!!!! In the PDF suggest that JWH 018 must be stored at least at -20ºC and it should be stable for at least one year...
Knowing that Spice and similar products are sprayed with JWH 018 (and maybe some more JWH-XXX compounds) this is a BIG concern, because this could mean that Spice products expire and start to degrade at normal temp in less than ONE YEAR!!!! With this in mind...I'm thinking that re stocking it's in vane. I only smoke one or two joints per week. It means that by the time I finish my herbal blend stock...It will no longer be effective... :(:(:(
F***!!! Maybe I waste to much money...I thought that at least Spice and alikes lose potency and expires way after that time frame!!!!
What do you think???

Bali Muncher Jim
03-14-2009, 12:40 PM
Thats one chunky order.

The un-opened packets shoud be ok right? Just the opened packets will start to degrade? I was considering stocking up too. The other option is to buy one of the JWH*** compounds and make your own, but the same problem exists, whats a fridge go down too like -2 / -3.

On a side note I have noticed a slight decrease in the length of the spice diamond high recently?

CxBXR
03-14-2009, 04:35 PM
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fedete
03-14-2009, 07:09 PM
I can see that I'm not the only one with the same problem here...
Anyone had a bag of Spice Gold, Diamond, Silver for 8+ months and still be effective??? Or it loses potency over time??? Please post your experience.
Thanks!!!

PS: Let's hope that Spice and other herbal blends can make it at least a couple of years to come and doesn't degrade to soon to quickly!!!! Man I so :mad::mad::mad:

Dr.Juice
03-14-2009, 09:54 PM
so store it in the freezer? Should be fine? Or get a gram of jwh-018 which will last you like a year.

Mona Lisa
03-14-2009, 09:59 PM
I've used old Spice Silver that was over 2 years old and it was still just as potent.

Spaced out
03-15-2009, 11:58 AM
I think someone needs to bong :p

thiswayup
03-16-2009, 07:20 PM
i dont think i've ever let a spice packet last more than 2 weeks anyway :D

THCDunc
03-16-2009, 10:09 PM
There's no need to worry about degredation of the active chemicals.

-20c is just the optimum way to store it, if you look on some of the other PDF's they mention storing certain other chemicals at -4c and I know these chemicals have a shelf life of several years.

JWH-018 is one of the more stable synthetic cannabinoids and compared to others such as HU-210 is very stable and I heard of someone storing HU-210 in a baggie in there draw for over a year with little loss of potency so I think JWH-018 will last a fair while, certainly if the packs are unopened.