Ivory Wave Bath Salts

[the straw]

SWIM got some of this today and they added 100mg each to their baths 12 hours ago and are still very much awake. SWIM didn't realise that this was as powerful as it is proving to be... After a massive search on google and other forums SWIM cannot find anythin on this product and what is actually in it apart from the named ingredients which are:

Epsom Salts, Sodium Barcarbonate, Sodium Chloride, minerals, trace elements and naturally occurring amino acids.

SWIM was wondering if anyone on here had heard of this brand and if so how was that bath for you?

Thanks

[Neo]

Like I said in chat .... never heard of this brand / product myself. You are the first to report on the internet :)

[Pseudo]

I was sent a sample of this to try-whoa! I may be back with more than whoa later :D

[Grapes]

SWIM was wondering if anyone on here had heard of this brand and if so how was that bath for you?

SWIM? What the fuck? Why are you writing about yourself in the third person? LMAO Very odd! :eek:

[Mona Lisa]

I've impulsively placed an order with a well-known Irish site.

[Mona Lisa]

After reading an in-depth thread over on Fuckled, I suspect this is mainly MDPV and should be thus dosed accordingly.

[Pseudo]

The powder is a light brownish colour,Mona - I went and did a little reading on MDVP there and wouldn't be surprised at all to find that its part of the mix.In fact if its not I'll be amazed.

I'd recommend trying this fairly early in the day - you already know why!

:)

[SecretAgent79]

Has anyone tried these bath salts yet?? been reading up about this MDVP, and from what ive read it sounds like good stuff apart from the cumdown.
Can any1 send me pm of shop that sells these bathsalts? If this MDVP is so good y aint every1 ravin about it like mcat? i aint neva heard of it untill recently?? morethan likely il try it, like it an then it all get banned!
cheers:)

[Mona Lisa]

The problem with MDPV is that it has to be dosed really carefully. There's a small margin of error between a nice dose and too much. I'd imagine this powder is a diluted form but people should start out dosing low iwth it, just in case.

As for banning it, I think almost everything will eventually be banned. When parliament come back in the autumn, I think many laws will be passed. The scene will continue but go underground

[SecretAgent79]

I also read that, its also a case of knowing your own limits & what you can handle. My tolerence level of mcat has gone way up in recent weeks & fancy trying something different, my body is just to used to mcat! Im just not gettin that same slap from it anymore, I think a break taking it would help.
When trying a new chem for the first time Ive learnt though experience to take it slow & with caution as it can hit you hard the first time.
Pm me if you can with website i can buy these bath salts on an il give em a go. U said u thought the bathsalts contained MDPV? instead of payin a fortune for the ivory wave is it not possible to buy MDPV on its own like we can mcat??
Ive spent a small fortune in the past on powders such as charge an dusted that gave me absolute ziltch in terms of stimulation or euphoria, actually they did the opposite!
:)thanxs :)

[enduin]

MDPV did almost nothing on me other than keep awake, some stimulation, racing heart and bruxism... It was also supposed to be a good source, but it can be me. A friend had better luck in terms of effect, but still no euphoria and general disappointment nontheless. If those salts contain MDPV they have to be cut with something cause 100mg of MDPV would kill a healty adult (eventho there are stories of people taking up to 100mg, but I don't believe 'em). Yeah you don't wanna OD on it.

[groovefactory]

tried this stuff about a week ago had alot of worries that nyt sooo i got horriffically paranoid. but the body high i got was wicked...
soooo, last nyt at around 10pm i tried it again i know your told not to snort the stuff but i couldn help myself... between me and my fab other half we did the entire half a gram bag!!! i aint got a high like that in years!! nice fast heartrate adrenaline pumping body buzz rushes thru me but i was in complete control of my actions.. its euphoric to say the least
it felt so good.. (im still a bit out of it now and its like 7pm the next night...
i can see why people get scared about thier heart rate but a strong mind and you'l over come the anxiety. and some good mates around is always awesome....
i cant believe this stuff tho the buzz is soo clean and if ya'll pump yourselves with some VITAMIN C the comedown wont be sooo gloomy!

this stuff is just mind boggling except the downside for me was the endless chatter in my head.... the only way to describe it for me was if all the lil voices you ever heard in ur head all just kept talking at once.. i was so buzzed i didnt know what to do!!

im on the come down now and im completely fugded up!!
i cant concentrate on anything!! things sound ok in my head but im having serious hardship trying to express what i wanna say cos i keep fumbling the words as i say them!! its kinda frustrating!!

i give this
9/10

its super in everyway but lasts wayyyyyy tooo long
lol this is messed up how messed up i still am ryt now!!

[wildguy6969]

tried this stuff about a week ago had alot of worries that nyt sooo i got horriffically paranoid. but the body high i got was wicked...
soooo, last nyt at around 10pm i tried it again i know your told not to snort the stuff but i couldn help myself... between me and my fab other half we did the entire half a gram bag!!! i aint got a high like that in years!! nice fast heartrate adrenaline pumping body buzz rushes thru me but i was in complete control of my actions.. its euphoric to say the least
it felt so good.. (im still a bit out of it now and its like 7pm the next night...
i can see why people get scared about thier heart rate but a strong mind and you'l over come the anxiety. and some good mates around is always awesome....
i cant believe this stuff tho the buzz is soo clean and if ya'll pump yourselves with some VITAMIN C the comedown wont be sooo gloomy!

this stuff is just mind boggling except the downside for me was the endless chatter in my head.... the only way to describe it for me was if all the lil voices you ever heard in ur head all just kept talking at once.. i was so buzzed i didnt know what to do!!

im on the come down now and im completely fugded up!!
i cant concentrate on anything!! things sound ok in my head but im having serious hardship trying to express what i wanna say cos i keep fumbling the words as i say them!! its kinda frustrating!!

i give this
9/10

its super in everyway but lasts wayyyyyy tooo long
lol this is messed up how messed up i still am ryt now!!



that good eh !

[Mona Lisa]

that good eh !

Could well be spam; I dosed 60mg earlier today and hardly noticed anything though may have needed to do more.

[wildguy6969]

Could well be spam; I dosed 60mg earlier today and hardly noticed anything though may have needed to do more.

well hopefuly you notice somthing :D

[Mona Lisa]

Dunno; after three hours decided to top up with 125 MDAI followed by another 40mg an hour later. The effects have been subtle from both substances but believe I'm above baseline because music sounds better and more clear than usual, plus I'm more wide-awake than I normally would be right now as it's well after 10pm. I suspect that I didn't take enough of the Ivory, having only done 60mg.

I only paid thirty euros for a whole gram so if the magic dose was, say, 120mg, it would be pretty good value. I was just cautious with my first dose, plus it might be more effective to snort it, whereas I'd ingested it.

[SecretAgent79]

How can you tell the difference between mdpv and mcat? does the powder look similar to mcat? Its just some stuff i stupidly snorted last week really messed me up and i have a feeling it was this mdpv?? Its put me off doing anything for a while, it was that bad!!

[kenta]

How can you tell the difference between mdpv and mcat? does the powder look similar to mcat?
The smell differs alot.

[Pumert]

Well i havnt seen ayone put up a link so i guess i will

http://secure-credit-card-payments.co.uk/spice-gold-direct/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_co py_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_XCFG BCVHBG.html

there you go have fun

[scudinvi]

Well i havnt seen ayone put up a link so i guess i will

http://secure-credit-card-payments.co.uk/spice-gold-direct/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_co py_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_XCFG BCVHBG.html

there you go have fun

Uhmm!!! Thats because posting links are not allowed.http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs040.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Pumert]

then y did sum1 ask 4 a link?

[scudinvi]

then y did sum1 ask 4 a link?

I guess because they did'nt see this thread by Neo/Administrator.
http://www.legalhighsforum.com/showthread.php?t=481

[Pumert]

what if its a link to a non vendor site??

like to an article?

[scudinvi]

I believe thats ok...;)

[Systemdoll]

Someone on DF claim that it's (-)-2-β-Carbomethoxy-3-β-(4-fluorophenyl)tropane (β-CFT, WIN-35,428 )
it's a stimulant drug used in scientific research. CFT is a phenyltropane based dopamine reuptake inhibitor and is structurally derived from cocaine. It is around 3-10x more potent than cocaine and lasts around 7 times longer based on animal studies. While the naphthalenedisulfonate salt is the most commonly used form in scientific research due to its high solubility in water, the free base and hydrochloride salts are known compounds and can also be produced. The tartrate is another salt form that is reported.

CFT was first reported alongside by Clarke and co-workers in 1973.

Legal Status
CFT has no history of abuse in humans, but according to the chemical supplier Sigma-Aldrich it is illegal in the USA (Schedule II) and Germany (Kontrollierte Droge) 1, presumably due to its similar effects to cocaine; however CFT is not specifically listed as a Schedule II drug on the DEA website 2 or on the German controlled drug schedule 3 and so it is unclear on what basis Sigma-Aldrich has derived this legal information, although provisions of the Federal Analog Act may be used by Sigma-Aldrich (and the DEA) to presume its illegality. While CFT might well be considered a controlled substance analogue in these countries there has never been any formal announcement by either the US or German government of CFT being added to the controlled substances list.
CFT might possibly also be considered a controlled substance analogue of cocaine in Canada, New Zealand and Australia, due to its related chemical structure to cocaine. According to analog law one must consider structural similarity, and CFT might well not be considered substantially similar to cocaine, having been derived by the removal of an ester linkage rather than by simply substituting extra groups onto cocaine, although a para-fluoro group has also been added to CFT. Also the intent of the user must be considered as well, so CFT would probably not be considered illegal when it is being used solely for scientific research. The relatively complex synthesis of CFT, as well as the fact that the main synthetic routes proceed via the restricted intermediate compound ecgonine, make it fairly unlikely that CFT will appear on the recreational market as a drug of abuse.

Toxicity
Sigma-Aldrich categorizes CFT as being a "very toxic" chemical and recommends the use of gloves, goggles, protective apron and respirator while handling it, and states it must only be used in a fume hood. However this description is not supported by the known toxicology of CFT based on its widespread use in animals over a 30 year period and so this extreme caution is difficult to reconcile with the chemical and pharmacological properties of the drug; this may instead reflect concerns about its abuse potential rather than actual potential to cause poisoning. The drug data sheet notes that serious side effects can occur following exposure to CFT, including CNS stimulation, dilation of eye pupils, euphoria, breathing difficulties, nervousness, restlessness, hypertension, fainting, paleness, arrhythmia, cardiac arrest, convulsions, and death. Prolonged or repeated exposure to CFT may result in habituation or addiction.
Administering 100mg/kg of CFT to rats only resulted in convulsions being reported, whereas CIT had the ability to cause death at this dose

[FriendlyToker]

I strongly advise against it. Did one pack over 1-1.5hrs. Now I'm sitting all night, trying to calm down, with my heart pounding like a bell. I'm seriously thinking that the company who brought this crap to people has a team of schizophrenics as leaders. Although the way it works - if you're lucky and it works as it should for you - is not that bad, but the comedown and heart pounding (I feel like it's being squeezed and I feel like a needle is being stabbed in my heart from time to time, it lasts just a second or so but really freaks the hell out of me.
Do NOT buy!

[MysteriousPlants.com]

I don't know, for me personally Diablo XXX beats any type of funny bath salts, they are not that effective anyway....
Looking for a great buzz and night out? Definitely Diablo XXX or Speed Rush

[FriendlyToker]

Still not myself yet :D This is horror, not a stimulant. Feeling drained and soulless. And physically tired like hell, and heart aching. NEVAR AGIN!

[scudinvi]

That is horrible! That report is enough to put me off, no Bath salts for me...:confused:

[Mona Lisa]

It's things like this that make me think that maybe it's just as well that things are going to tighten up soon.

[jonnywong]

hey, yeah but these bath salts are better snorted through the nose. aparently a gram goes between 8 people but we rinsed a gram between 3 of us and it kept me awake for 2 days straight. the high is definately worth it as it feels amazing but the next day you feel like shit. can make you really scared if you have bad things going on. but all in all worth it but try to go easy and share it out between enough of you cos it is intense stuff

[FriendlyToker]

If some people really enjoy it, then they never tried a good pill.

[Headcrash]

Hey ppl.. That stuff, wich claims to be a bath salts, is a killer..... I have tried many different alternatives in my life,but, this one seems to be most harmful of them all.... Some people say: you have to watch the dosage for it, but DID ANYONE OF YOU, ever followed that rule?
I could write an f-ing novel about it... No one did ever (as far as i know) take the recomendations... (or are there really ones?) It is well hard to decide, what is the right amount of this particular sh*t, and therefore, it should be banned before commercializng it... Beware! And I swear, I will never use it again....

[mi5shaw]

found wave last august going to oxygen festivel, didnt sleep for 5 day's and wasn't in anyway tired. been taking it everyday since, and now cant function without it. the drug clinic i attend for a heroin addiction tested it and found nothing, but if i dont have it then i can't even walk. if i stop taking it i sleep for 3 day's solid. mind yourself with this one.

[ejdante]

had an ivory bath last night about 8pm three small pinches over 18 hours and felt relaxed but awake. i have had a lot of different salts in the past and this is the first one that had a long term effect but still a feeling of normality. very relaxed now and going to go to sleep. ps i don't feel at all ill

[ejdante]

thanks for the info, i will take last night as a one off.

[mi5shaw]

oh buddy you wont feel sick after it, you feel like superman after it. if i could take it everyday for the rest of my life then i would, but the lack of sleep might cause a problem or 2. i was taking a gram a day, not sleeping for 5 or 6 day's and to be honest, i still felt grand. mdpv is the drug, highly addictive, and drug clinic's arent sure yet of how to deal with it. luckily i was on suboxone when ivory wave was banned here and it softened the blow.

[ejdante]

didn't manage to sleep for more than 1 hour yesterday and felt like hell all evening but did manage to eat and slept finally last night. mate not so lucky though, hospital last night and twice today, taken back there just now unconcious, can't stop having fits and now on a drip. hope he stays in this time as the plonker needs to sleep. I for one am definately not doing it again!

[mi5shaw]

well mdpv is the drug in ivory wave, tell them that's what he's taken. ivory wave and vanilla sky are basically the same thing. pure gold is another to be careful of. hope your mate's alright. street drug's still the safest by far.

[Neo]

MDPV should be avoided. Horrible come downs.

[IvoryWaveWarning]

Background Info

On Friday I left my house with the plan of giving birthday money to a friend, however plans changed when we heard of a local high dealer that would deliver stuff to us. The hype about this attracted a big group of friends who all wanted in without even checking the stuff first. We all got together, put in a lot of money and bought so much that we got some free NRG pills.

Night 1
However I do not know whether the following is due to the combining of substances.
We all consumed a bag of Ivory Wave to ourselves, along with an NRG pill in very quick succesion. The buzz from this just gave us a lot of energy, and like most stimulants we gained a nice happy feeling. This led to us rather randomly creating a dance routine for 6 hours straight. A dare I say, almost perfect high until this point. Towards the end of the night, the people who had taken more then others were fine yet a lot of the people who took less had started to throw up which even when on this stuff had a dampening effect on the experience. The night carried on with us doing all kinds of fun things such as swimming in a icy cold lake and having a wild night to remember. Nobody slept.

Night 2
Night 2 we all could still feel the effects, yet we hungered for another night like the last. I made a serious mistake in which I went and blazed up with a mate for an hour or two. Unfazed by what I thought would put me to sleep I went back to my other friends and we withdrew from bank accounts and all sorts to get the money together. We thought that this night would be very similar to the last night and in a way it was. We sub-conciously increased our doses this time round ( Ivory Wave and NRG ) and it seemed that the people who where sick the night before just got worse. However the others had a good buzz and all seemed well.
A large amount of us went on to drink for a laugh and therefore the mix just got deadlier. The following events can only really be described as I was really off my face, my head spinning at an incredible rate, speaking so fast that sometimes words would come out too early in a sentence. I think perhaps it was the addition of the extra drug which may have put me distinctively above the rest. But this high, although ridiculously crazy with my brain going nuts, actually started to get annoying. I struggled to think clearly, felt disorientated and couldn't really make out my friends words. We decided perhaps it was sensible to get one of the sick guys somewhere safe and in the 10 minutes or so that it took my friends to fetch their bikes I felt as if I had dropped into a sensible state of high. I rode on the back of my friends bike, which is a must if you ever find yourself in my situation yet it was making me extremely paranoid. My friends then tried to crash as it seemed sensible now without sleeping 2 days so I decided to ride home.
THIS IS WHERE IT ALL WENT WRONG FOR ME, VERY IMPORTANT YOU READ THIS
Almost instantaneously after leaving my friends I started to hear music following me, as if they were speakers either side of my head, rather then inside it, like when your imagining a song. This actually seemed quite nice at first and was a happy bonus, then I started hearing voices. This too, at the time seemed nice, hearing my friends say things to me although I never made much out. Looking back the journey from there is a blur and I remember getting home and the voices then turned scary. They had stayed the same but I felt as if being chased, and started locking all the doors in the house. The trauma was too much and I curled in a ball in my room and the relentless assault of voices really made me flip out. I suddenly felt extremely hot, my heart beating scarily fast and my face was cold and slimy. Luckily I caught site of my facebook and I told a friend what was going on. He managed to calm me down to the point where my heart and temperature dropped to normal. However I then decided a cold shower would do me good but as I anxiously went to turn the tap I hallucinated and something flew at me from the corner of my eye. This by far was the scariest moment of my life and I threw myself up against the sink and cowered in fear, I then shook uncontrollably. Lucky my friend had driven to my house as he was worried about me and I carefully opened the door. I swore at this moment I heard another one of my friends approaching too but when my friend got to the door he said that he definiteley wasnt with him which took some convincing. From here things became a lot calmer, I felt a lot better being back with someone I could trust and help me and the voices stopped. However I did continue to hear the music previously mentioned and it seemed to go on for ages. Nobody slept.

Night 3
We had a party planned that night, quite a lot of the people had started a comedown, but the NRG kept us all awake. This as you can imagine led to a very boring night, yet one friend was silly enough to carry on doing the stuff! Throughout the night people teased about my trip and by the end of the night I was quite overly aggressive towards someone who tried to take my alcohol, actually taking up a bottle as a weapon. My friend who had been something like a helper to me that day decided it was best we leave and the one friend carried on the ivory wave whilst I was gone so I dont have details.
The point of even mentioning this night is that, basically it led to us all having a shitty time. Oh and I managed a tiny sleep.

WHAT HAPPENED TO EVERYONE ELSE - VERY IMPORTANT
As I write this things are still going wrong for my friends. After I went home they all went to hospital and received treatment to calm them down including sedative sort drugs and were sent on their way. However one friend was kept in as his case was very serious ( no suprises that it was the one who carried on ). The hospital feared he had a lethal blod clot and didnt think he'd live! Luckily enough there was no clot and he was let out just in time to catch his flight to New Zealand. Sadly problems havent stopped there, with one friend beating up his dad, none of them being able to sleep since ( it's been 6 days!) and two friends experienced a similar 'trip' to mine, one sounding worryingly worse involving him smashing his house up infront of his family thinking people were after him. The scary thing is we got off lucky. Which is why I can't more strongly advise that you don't try this drug. Im no doctor but I witnessed enough of this crap to think your mad when theres a risk of this happening, or WORSE. I admit its a great high, but thoroughly research this drug and see for yourself if its worth all the possible side effects, one being death.

I hope this story wasnt too dragged out and bulky but I wanted people to try get a vivid picture of the stream of events so its a useful as possible. If you have read this I genuinely hope it has put you off this legal high and that nobody goes through a terrible experience such as mine ( although its minor to what could happen ).

[starkey]

lol

good read.

sound fucking aweful man, why didnt you do research? and you had the whole bag of powder to yourself? dude what were yoiu thinking? at least youl be more careful in the future. just hope no more of this happens. i thought mdpv was banned now anyway? and nrg1?

[Mona Lisa]

I am optimistic that with rest and time you should be reasonably OK. Splash some cold water on your face too. Drink chamomile tea. Have a banana and glass of milk for the magnesium. Turkey for the tryptaphan and melatonin.

[Aussieboy]

WOW!

IME any longer than 2 days without sleep and your asking for trouble!!! Sleep deprivation really messes with your pysche... with or without drugs!

Even if you have to take something to force sleep, it is better to sleep and reset your body clock than continue to scramble your senses... The longer your awake the worse the outcome...

Glad to hear your finally OK, I guess you and your friends have learnt a valuable lesson???

[Mona Lisa]

Listen to your body; if it wants to sleep and rest, then let it. Hydrate yourself gently. Perhaps even gentle exercise. Mixing various unknown substances as sold in these legals is asking for trouble. Best to stick to moderate doses too.

I've always believed that a little of what you fancy does you good but the problem is that people often take too much and mix which can make things go wobbly.

[nam]

found wave last august going to oxygen festivel, didnt sleep for 5 day's and wasn't in anyway tired. been taking it everyday since, and now cant function without it. the drug clinic i attend for a heroin addiction tested it and found nothing, but if i dont have it then i can't even walk. if i stop taking it i sleep for 3 day's solid. mind yourself with this one.
Hi,

I am a freelance journalist conducting an investigation into Ivory Wave. The piece will aim to raise awareness of the drug showing the risks and effects. I am writing to you to request a small amount of your time to talk to you about your experiences with the substance. All personal information about yourself will be kept confidential if you so wish.

Thank You in anticipation
Natalie Miller

Note: This is not spam.

[MightyB]

Whoa! Glad that things didn't turn much worse!! Good on ya for posting the experiences and details that you have. Post such as yours are what spark good discussion. You posted that each had a packet. What size packets? IW been tested previous to having whole packets?

IW is one that you should under NO circumstances disrespect/overuse. I've found that it can be moreish and, going in, if your mind is not set IN STONE at the start regarding the limit,or you tend to go beyond what's necessary for a given time-frame/event regularly, you should avoid it all together. This, of course applies to most things though. Each individual must know themselves well enough to choose the product best for them.

If you are unsure, err on the side of caution and avoid it. Most suggest complete avoidance by all of IW, from what I've gathered while researching this bath salt. I don't, HOWEVER, if you don't know yourself, habits and tendencies toward things that may have a moreish edge, most things should be avoided until you have 'met' yourself on that level.

It wasn't asked, but for myself, there are many things that I absolutely refuse to even try b/c addictive tendencies. KNOW YOURSELF in caps b/c it's a point that is so often overlooked. I'm not yelling :p).

Mona touched on a point that is vital to discussions such as this:

Mixing various unknown substances as sold in these legals is asking for trouble. Best to stick to moderate doses too. I've always believed that a little of what you fancy does you good but the problem is that people often take too much and mix which can make things go wobbly.
IW w/ NRG doesn't sound too appealing to me, but I've never seen the latter offered where I live. It's on my avoid list b/c of info/feedback I have gathered from others.

Cliff Notes (LOL) 1) research until you run past the same info/posts on products multiple times. Reread b/c chances are you missed something 2) when new info is no longer being found, weigh the risk(s), known sides, average dosage and feedback of others against what u know to be true of yourself. Think it be worth it? 3) assess tolerance on a dose lower than suggested/averaged by others 4) Don't mix things that have not gone through steps 1-4.

It's work, but worth it. I use this process for most things, whether they are OTC, prescription, chemical food additive or handed off as a gift. It's probably overkill, but better that show it's face on the research end than the testing end. ;)

[Neo]

Exactly, people must exercise caution. If your headache doesn't go away after taking 4 pain killers, you don't take another 4 do you?

This is where we get the fine line between safe legal highs and dangerous research chemicals.

[durd1e]

heh, words to live by there mate.

If life could have a warning label it would say..."people must exercise caution".

[bigj21178]

SWIM got some of this today and they added 100mg each to their baths 12 hours ago and are still very much awake. SWIM didn't realise that this was as powerful as it is proving to be... After a massive search on google and other forums SWIM cannot find anythin on this product and what is actually in it apart from the named ingredients which are:

Epsom Salts, Sodium Barcarbonate, Sodium Chloride, minerals, trace elements and naturally occurring amino acids.

SWIM was wondering if anyone on here had heard of this brand and if so how was that bath for you?

Thanks
im sick


i dont know

[bigj21178]

not sure wtf i took called zooom

[dmbell]

Bath salts are good.. But a little goes a long way!!! You can't do a whole bag!!

[il cut ye up n snort ye]

I don't know, for me personally Diablo XXX beats any type of funny bath salts, they are not that effective anyway....
Looking for a great buzz and night out? Definitely Diablo XXX or Speed Rush

i agree the xxx diablo were powerful cant beat em wid a big stick lyk apart frum dodgy stomach nxt day

[naughtylilgirlfriend]

I have only been able to find at smoke shops? Anybody know where else I can find Ivory?

[kalank]

I have only been able to find at smoke shops? Anybody know where else I can find Ivory?

Firstly, i ignore if it's still been sold , then Google still your friend:).
Lastly, i don't understand , why some people are still attracted by a stuff which should be avoided by anyone.

And as a 1st post, asking for sources isn't the most appropriate behaviour:D

Welcome to this forum then:);)and please read the helpul information posted on this stuff by previous posters. It could b wiser

[magicblends]

I must say Ivory Wave and Ivory Wave Soft are extremely potent products and you must be cautious and research the product you are using first. I did not research Ivory Wave Soft before I used it and have a wonderful experience but the after effects were not the best.

And regarding the question to the original post. I have a supplier for this stuff and when I asked them what was in it they told me. The product consisted of mephedrone. Thats just what I heard but the companies are sketchy about disclosing the ingredients I guess because we are buying "bath salts"

[UAintSmokinIfUAintChokin]

Alright so I bought 200 mg, and a buddy and I each snorted 50 mg over 3 hours. On my first hit my heart rate ramped and my stomach cramped and I barfed hard. Now, I was already hung over from heavy drinking the previous night, so I'll attribute some of my nausea to that. The high was a little speedy but to be honest I was disappointed. 20 bucks for that? Bullcrap. I did experience sleeplessness that night so I refrained from using anymore until 3 days later (today). Going without sleep will make you crazy. Your brain needs to shut down for a night to recoup. So now Im fresh and trying it again, in small doses 5-10 mg. Elevated heart rate immediately after the first hit, cold clammy hands, A slight twist in my stomach, and well... Nothing else. I'm going to do a hit or two more over the next hour before I go to work, but I'm not really expectig much.

All in all, I agree with everyone else. Control your doses, don't fiend on the shit, and stop for a few days to get sleep after only a few hits. The comedown?it does suck. Even if you load up on vitamin C your stomach will hurt and you'll lose your appetite, you'll feel irritable, and it's hard to stay asleep.

The high? Nothing worth talking about. I did f*ck my girlfriend for a few hours without losing my stiffy though ;-) she came a lot and was very very happy, and made me blueberry muffins for breakfast. :-D that was the best part of the high. But who need drugs to have great sex?

[Kimbonut]

Bath salts are good.. But a little goes a long way!!! You can't do a whole bag!!

I cant believe i tried this stuff.Its like old school Xenadrine. Im 220lb and it jacked me up. I cant even breath right and felt nauseous for hours. I did One gram of Iv0ry W@ve And 0cean Bur$t all together. I don't feel so good. Where is the barf bin.

[Kimbonut]

I'm still up and i cant go to sleep its been more than 24 hours since i have slept.I think i clearly overdosed on this stuff cause im afraid to go to bed in fear that I'll stop breathing. My wife is a registered Nurse and took my palse wen she got home from work and my heart rate was at a 130.Oh crap.

[Neo]

You'll be fine. Just relax, watch some movies or keep yourself busy talking with friends. You could take some anti anxiety medication or smoke some dope if that's your thing.

Make sure you keep your food and water intake up, or if you can't eat just down a protein shake or something similar.

Last I heard Ivory Wave was MDPV or 2-DPMP ... easy to take too much and be up for days. Avoid this stuff.

I've experienced 5 days of no sleep thanks to an overdose on 2-DPMP. Nasty stuff. But got through it ... you should be ok.

Might want to get some Ginko supplements for blood circulation and Milk Thistle to help your liver recover.

[romeek]

I have been on the trip with IVORY few times myself and it's good stuff but it's crucial to dose it properly.. it's not easy in some cases :D.

[disgustedone]

[B]As a mom who was at the emergency room last night for 5 hours I would urge any of you to reconsider bath salts. My son is 28, married, and WAS the primary care taker of my 2 precious grandbabies. Today he is in a psch hospital for at least 72 hours possibly longer. His last dose was last Friday. He is suffering from extreme paranoia. Everyone is after him and I mean EVERYONE. He has been with me since last Saturday and Ive had to take him everywhere with me. A trip to the grocery store went haywire before we ever got out of the car because the truck parked in front of me had out of state tags and he was so sure it was someone looking for him that he begged me to leave....so no grocerys......He couldnt sleep, was having hallucinations, hearing things, etc. I thought that by staying with me, making him eat well, hydrate, get some rest and with a mothers love that he would come down off this crap and be ok. Just didnt happen that way. Not sure that he will ever be 100% again. I love my son to the moon and back and I hope that for all you here who are always looking for the new high...I hope the ones who love you never have to experience what my family is going through.
Please reconsider before trying this stuff....

[Nikkitaurus42]

I have enjoyed trying new things quite often in my 26 years of life, but I have always made sure to read up on whatever I was looking to try next. I don't judge and I don't lecture because when someone does it to me I tell them to sit on it and rotate. With this particular substance, I have done quite a bit of reading (always checking my sources for reliability of course) and I have to wonder if anyone else has done their research? These "bath salts", while intriguing, can't be worth the high that they deliver. Listen, my girlfriend recently went to NC, where she tried this stuff labeled as Cloud 9. She did one small line and for three days she thought that every word that everyone around her spoke was somehow about her and that her whole family and friends were directly and indirectly verbally attacking her. For three days. She came back so overwhelmed and uneasy that as she explained her vacation to me she was almost in tears. This caused me to look into the "bath salt" she had used. She went along with it and as we found reliable reports, she admitted that she may have hallucinated all of it. for three more days after she was home, she said that she had been crying randomly and uncontrollably. That kind of paranoia, hallucination and depression can be dangerous can't it? Can one line of a "bath salt" really be worth that much uncomfortability and pain? I'd really like to begin a discussion on this subject if anyone is game. -NikkiTaurus42-

[Nikkitaurus42]

[B]As a mom who was at the emergency room last night for 5 hours I would urge any of you to reconsider bath salts. My son is 28, married, and WAS the primary care taker of my 2 precious grandbabies. Today he is in a psch hospital for at least 72 hours possibly longer. His last dose was last Friday. He is suffering from extreme paranoia. Everyone is after him and I mean EVERYONE. He has been with me since last Saturday and Ive had to take him everywhere with me. A trip to the grocery store went haywire before we ever got out of the car because the truck parked in front of me had out of state tags and he was so sure it was someone looking for him that he begged me to leave....so no grocerys......He couldnt sleep, was having hallucinations, hearing things, etc. I thought that by staying with me, making him eat well, hydrate, get some rest and with a mothers love that he would come down off this crap and be ok. Just didnt happen that way. Not sure that he will ever be 100% again. I love my son to the moon and back and I hope that for all you here who are always looking for the new high...I hope the ones who love you never have to experience what my family is going through.
Please reconsider before trying this stuff....
This is yet another story that I have heard speaking the real dangers of this ridiculous drug. I am sorry that you and your son have to go through this terrible ordeal. Nothing can be worth the pain that the both of you and your family is experiencing. I have an article that I found that I think may be helpful in passing the message about how dangerous this drug can be in it's "bath salt" form at very least. I hope that it is informative for anyone that is curious enough to know more about what they try before they try it.

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/649596.html

[automatic]

I just wanted to get this out there to hopefully help out others. There was a mass overdose in Minnesota with 11 hospitalized, some in critical condition, and one dead. I've been keeping myself as educated as possible on all these new legal highs coming out but they keep popping up on a daily basis, so its stay in the loop. I've used a number of them some good some bad i even tried those bath salts, and i'll never do it again they messed my head up for a couple weeks. My friend that turned me on to them went absolutely insane( i'm not sure how much he did or how frequently). That was 3 months ago and he's still not right i cant even hold a conversation with him but he's much better than he was it was frighting to say the least. There was a lot more to my friends situation but you get the picture. Its like any other drug though if you take too much it usually ends up being a terrible experience. Anyway this new drug is called a number of things 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-B, IZZY, or ZOOM i've never done or seen it but I'll leave a link so you can read on it. I have no personal experience with it but i think its important to get it out there and hopefully help out some people. Its been on the news all day and leaves you with that erie feeling. Everybody is going to make their own choices, i'm just putting this out for info for other people.

Teen dead, 10 in hospital after 'mass overdose' from party drug

http://www.twincities.com/ci_17635643?source=most_emailed

[Drakionx]

Hi guys.

Sorry if I'm bumping an old thread, but I had a question about Ivory wave vs. Ivory wave ultra.

Are these essentially the same thing? I notice that ultra is slightly more expensive, so I would assume there's more active ingredient, but being unenlightened it could be something like an entirely different formula.

Has anyone tried both and/or is willing to explain?

[PlantShaman]

Ivory Wave of any kind is poison... don't buy that stuff, you will mess yourself up.

[Drakionx]

Ivory Wave of any kind is poison... don't buy that stuff, you will mess yourself up.

Thank you for the quick reply.

I understand that they may be physically destructive and mentally debilitating, but I am looking for composition facts or accounts differing the two substances. Everyone knows (and statistics show) that "Just say no!" is not an effective deterrent for drug use.

[PlantShaman]

No one really knows whats in your bath salts brother... thats what makes them so dangerous. There are several companies making ivory wave and they all use different formulas but the base ingrediant is likely to be methylenedioxypyrovalerone or mdpv for short. Hope this helps you. Please don't ingest this stuff. Try some party pills (http://www.partypillhighs.com) instead if you want a nice buzz.

[wpizimp4u]

Ok i got the 500mg of ivory wave at the local Arab convenience store. I only started out with a straw filling it up about an 1/8 of an inch of the straw and putting it up to my nose like a shooter. i started out with a bump because of all the bad stories ive heard about this stuff i was to scared to do a small line, but first i saturated it under my tounge with a mild rush. I was impressed but not satisfied. I then snorted the same amount and the effects were instantaneous and very strong. the effects were just like a good quality coke high. 48 hours later its all gone with doses every 2 hours or so I am still up and haven't ate anything since.(except vitamins and water)
Ive tried just about everything and even meth didnt quite compare to the appitite lose ive experienced with this drug. But Hardly any stomach pains compared to a 2-3 day meth or coke binge. Now i havent abused this as much like i have with coke but got the same effects off 25-40mg compared to half a gram of mediocre cocaine. during this period i have smoked about 10 blunts of a k2-like substance called white widow. Witch is some of the strongest k2 ive experienced in the last 2 years(made by a local guy in town). about after 16 hours i was feeling bored and had an high anxiety level with a strong case of paranoia with i normally dont get with coke like most people do so for some reason i went aginst my better judgement and got 40 bucks worth of some mediocre crack. However the crack high didnt last very long and was hardly noticable after 3 minutes or so.So a couple hours later When i switched back to the bath salt i noticed imediatly a big increase in the (coke high) and no longer felt parinoid or a need to CHASE THE DRAGON! I was really surprised in the quality high i gained back almost immediatly, I havent experienced this even with mixing coke to crack or coke to meth vise versa. After this I drank a 6pack of beer over a 4 hour period witch really wasnt needed because the bathsalt doesnt give off the crash feeling like i normally get with coke or meth. So i didnt have to fight off that feeling with alcohol like i normally do. In fact i could hardly feel the alcohol because of the strong euphoric affect. that being said i also smoked a lil less than a gram of high quality pot. Again i could barely feel the effects of the weed because the bath salt seemed to be over powering it. With the white widow k2 i noticed it a lil more than i did with the hydroponic weed because this k2 is stronger than most high grade pot( witch is why ive been smoking this k2 for 2 years) but i couldn't get the full effect like normal k2 use, Now with all this being said i do not have a addictive personality and can control my limit of use of hard core drugs(heroin,crack,coke,meth,MDMA) to maybe 3 times a year spending no more than 60 bucks at a time and can go cold turkey. What concerned me the most is that i felt an highly extreme addiction to this drug i would say 10x more than that of crack,meth,or coke. Witch Ive never experienced with no drug other than marijuana or alcohol witch is my perfered drug of choice. But one positive thing i can say is that I didn't experience the bad effects as much as of coming off a hardcore drug like that of a 3 day meth or coke binge, besides sore muscles witch i assume is from painting and cleaning my house almost half this time. It did give me the biggest burst of energy and willingness to do things i wouldnt have the motivation to normally do more so than ive experienced from anything else. ALL IN ALL this drug had more positve effects .vs negitive effects than any other hardcore drug ive done and its high is just as potent as coke and in my opionon stronger than meth. Being that the drug is legal and is like twice as cheap and more potent than most drugs, the high doesnt fade away with prolonged use, plus without the negitive effects makes this drug more appealing and it makes me feel as i could become addicted to it and mind you ive never experienced this addicted feeling with even heroin. I recomend you tread very softly with this drug treat it as it was specail k and know that it takes alot less to get high than it would with a line of coke. Infact i wouldnt even do a line because it doesnt seem to build up a tolerance and feels if it would be quite easy to overdose. I started early friday and have now lost track of time and its 7am sunday morning. Tring to sleep is dificult. and i have now just bought another 500mg pack a couple hours ago because im not tired or hungry after a 3 day binge witch would normally make me feel awful off of anything else. Ive always quit a hardcore drug and tilmake one small purchace, but with this the price is so cheap and i feel now as if ive just ate and got a days rest after a weekend binge witch worrys me greatly.
BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ITS TOO POTENT TO ABUSE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH IT TAKES TO OVERDOSE OR THE SHORT TERM- LONG TERM EFFECTS AND I FOUND IT HAVE HIGHLY ADDICTIVE TRAITS. Now excuse me as I will attempt to do this again this time without the mixture of other drugs witch was completely stupid on my part being that the effects are unknown but hey we gotta start somewhere right?

[wpizimp4u]

Ok i got the 500mg of ivory wave at the local Arab convenience store. I only started out with a straw filling it up about an 1/8 of an inch of the straw and putting it up to my nose like a shooter. i started out with a bump because of all the bad stories ive heard about this stuff i was to scared to do a small line, but first i saturated it under my tounge with a mild rush. I was impressed but not satisfied. I then snorted the same amount and the effects were instantaneous and very strong. the effects were just like a good quality coke high. 48 hours later its all gone with doses every 2 hours or so I am still up and haven't ate anything since.(except vitamins and water)
Ive tried just about everything and even meth didnt quite compare to the appitite lose ive experienced with this drug. But Hardly any stomach pains compared to a 2-3 day meth or coke binge. Now i havent abused this as much like i have with coke but got the same effects off 25-40mg compared to half a gram of mediocre cocaine. during this period i have smoked about 10 blunts of a k2-like substance called white widow. Witch is some of the strongest k2 ive experienced in the last 2 years(made by a local guy in town). about after 16 hours i was feeling bored and had an high anxiety level with a strong case of paranoia with i normally dont get with coke like most people do so for some reason i went aginst my better judgement and got 40 bucks worth of some mediocre crack. However the crack high didnt last very long and was hardly noticable after 3 minutes or so.So a couple hours later When i switched back to the bath salt i noticed imediatly a big increase in the (coke high) and no longer felt parinoid or a need to CHASE THE DRAGON! I was really surprised in the quality high i gained back almost immediatly, I havent experienced this even with mixing coke to crack or coke to meth vise versa. After this I drank a 6pack of beer over a 4 hour period witch really wasnt needed because the bathsalt doesnt give off the crash feeling like i normally get with coke or meth. So i didnt have to fight off that feeling with alcohol like i normally do. In fact i could hardly feel the alcohol because of the strong euphoric affect. that being said i also smoked a lil less than a gram of high quality pot. Again i could barely feel the effects of the weed because the bath salt seemed to be over powering it. With the white widow k2 i noticed it a lil more than i did with the hydroponic weed because this k2 is stronger than most high grade pot( witch is why ive been smoking this k2 for 2 years) but i couldn't get the full effect like normal k2 use, Now with all this being said i do not have a addictive personality and can control my limit of use of hard core drugs(heroin,crack,coke,meth,MDMA) to maybe 3 times a year spending no more than 60 bucks at a time and can go cold turkey. What concerned me the most is that i felt an highly extreme addiction to this drug i would say 10x more than that of crack,meth,or coke. Witch Ive never experienced with no drug other than marijuana or alcohol witch is my perfered drug of choice. But one positive thing i can say is that I didn't experience the bad effects as much as of coming off a hardcore drug like that of a 3 day meth or coke binge, besides sore muscles witch i assume is from painting and cleaning my house almost half this time. It did give me the biggest burst of energy and willingness to do things i wouldnt have the motivation to normally do more so than ive experienced from anything else. ALL IN ALL this drug had more positve effects .vs negitive effects than any other hardcore drug ive done and its high is just as potent as coke and in my opionon stronger than meth. Being that the drug is legal and is like twice as cheap and more potent than most drugs, the high doesnt fade away with prolonged use, plus without the negitive effects makes this drug more appealing and it makes me feel as i could become addicted to it and mind you ive never experienced this addicted feeling with even heroin. I recomend you tread very softly with this drug treat it as it was specail k and know that it takes alot less to get high than it would with a line of coke. Infact i wouldnt even do a line because it doesnt seem to build up a tolerance and feels if it would be quite easy to overdose. I started early friday and have now lost track of time and its 7am sunday morning. Tring to sleep is dificult. and i have now just bought another 500mg pack a couple hours ago because im not tired or hungry after a 3 day binge witch would normally make me feel awful off of anything else. Ive always quit a hardcore drug and tilmake one small purchace, but with this the price is so cheap and i feel now as if ive just ate and got a days rest after a weekend binge witch worrys me greatly.
BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ITS TOO POTENT TO ABUSE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH IT TAKES TO OVERDOSE OR THE SHORT TERM- LONG TERM EFFECTS AND I FOUND IT HAVE HIGHLY ADDICTIVE TRAITS. Now excuse me as I will attempt to do this again this time without the mixture of other drugs witch was completely stupid on my part being that the effects are unknown but hey we gotta start somewhere right?

[triplethreattv]

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SWIM got some of this today and they added 100mg each to their baths 12 hours ago and are still very much awake. SWIM didn't realise that this was as powerful as it is proving to be... After a massive search on google and other forums SWIM cannot find anythin on this product and what is actually in it apart from the named ingredients which are:

Epsom Salts, Sodium Barcarbonate, Sodium Chloride, minerals, trace elements and naturally occurring amino acids.

SWIM was wondering if anyone on here had heard of this brand and if so how was that bath for you?

Thanks

[thedank2012]

I think its MDMC. At least it could have that cut with something. Google MDMC and you decide :) :) :) :) :) :)

[michaelhatesdrugtests]

small doses are only good its a manic version of coke without neary the euphoria high doses i could not imagine what bath salt has mephedrone

[realsambo]

anyone know places to buy it in south cali?

[superblow]

SWIM got some of this today and they added 100mg each to their baths 12 hours ago and are still very much awake. SWIM didn't realise that this was as powerful as it is proving to be... After a massive search on google and other forums SWIM cannot find anythin on this product and what is actually in it apart from the named ingredients which are:

Epsom Salts, Sodium Barcarbonate, Sodium Chloride, minerals, trace elements and naturally occurring amino acids.

SWIM was wondering if anyone on here had heard of this brand and if so how was that bath for you?

Thanks


I also never heard of that, maybe you could share what its like and how's strong it is.

[bigupyaself]

Guys where the best place to get these from if you live in the uk?

[marian]

Crack down on bath salts is possibly coming very soon. drugway.com/2011/07/ktla-bath-salt-exclusive/

[thirdeyelasik]

Crack down on bath salts is possibly coming very soon. drugway.com/2011/07/ktla-bath-salt-exclusive/

Yes I have been following this as well. Part of me is glad because some of the bath salts have been shady MDPV mixes...I'm not a fan of pv at all. A few have buphedrone in them in the last few weeks which is a much smoother stimulant. Still another part of me wishes they would just leave us alone(the gov.).

[PlantShaman]

A new amendment to the state law here in Georgia outlawed 5 chemicals used in bathsalts on July 1st. I read that the DEA busted a huge bathsalt distributor out of Washington state and arrested dozens of store owners and employees that were selling the products in New York and New Jersey last month. Get out of the business while you still can... they will come after you.

I was never interested in buying or selling bathsalts though a few of my customers have asked me for them in the past. It just didn't seem like harm reduction to me...

[GOA]

Stay the fuck away from bath salts. I keep stressing this and feel like I'm wasting my breath at times. I know it's convenient to go to your local headshop to pick up one of these products, but you're much better off searching for an authentic (and preferably domestic) internet supplier with identifiable and pure reagent grade chemicals. Much safer in my opinion, as many vendors will be able to supply you with an MSDS and a GC-MS datasheet. Neither pure powders or bath salts are regulated for standardization, but I personally would rather get something that I knew came straight from a laboratory included with the proper documentation.

[LaugherScreamer]

Has anyone tried the latest legal-in-50-states version of *Ivory Wave? I found it a little less intense but in a good way. not as much overstimulation but again that's not a bad thing.

*This (http://legalhighsonline.blog.com/2011/07/25/ivory-wave-bath-salt-legal/)is the one.

[The Snapper]

Can anyone tell me whats in bath salts [Besides MDPV]

[The_One_and_Only_E]

Methyolne, Mephedrone, B1/B2/BX..., Look on google and erowid.org. Should lead you to what your looking for.

[CardinalBlue]

Having bought 500mg of Ivory Wave online, the results of a small snort have been pleasantly relaxing for about an hour so far. Waiting to see what happens. If I feel ok in the morning, might try another small snort - better safe than sorry I say. Balancing the downside of taking too little and wasting it or taking too much and going mental.. it's an unknown factor. My advice is to try a little... I just tipped some into the center of my palm... hardly a line even. So far so good, as the guy who fell from the 50th storey said as he passed each one on the way down. Bless All.

[Ronburgandy]

My friend actually had to be admitted to hospital because of Ivory Wave being too strong. We just stick to stuff like Poke, Banshee Dust etc now. We get ours from NOPE as they tend to be the cheapest online

[The_One_and_Only_E]

Do not source.

Sounds like you did to much. Try eaing up on dosage.

[Dr. X]

I tried this a few times (ordered online) and I found it alot cleaner than the gas station stuff. You just need to be very careful with the dosage and not take too much but that's the same for any RCs.

[NoOrFeRnLiTeBlAzEr]

lot of information on this thread. seems to me (just my opinion) that the people who have the bad side effects are the one's who haven't taken all this into consideration and listen when everyone says to do small doses. My intro to bath salts was some chems a friend threw together. Not cool. Stuff you get outta the bottom of the trash can would probably be better. Then I heard that my local headshop had 'bath salts'. I was like, what the hell, why not. First one I got had me and two friends cleaning the inside of a vacuum for 3 hours. (I didn't judge you, lol, jk) Since then I have tried two other kinds. Now, myself, I haven't seen too many bad (or what I would consider bad) side effects. My friend on the other hand, is another story. And I'd like to share just so you all can see some different experiences. Fast forward about a month from there and as I live on the east coast, we were preparing for Hurricane Irene to make an appearance. Figured we wouldn't be able to get out so we picked up some extra to last us through. Well, let me tell you. No electric isn't the ideal situation to be in while on this stuff (for some) My friend was geeking (as I call it) so bad, that he would hide in the bathroom shower behind the curtain because he thought someone was in the house coming after him. Begging us to check outside for people and the doors to make sure they were locked. Over and over and over again. now mind you, the other two of us are on it to, so imagine the level of intensity this was portraying. It eventually got to the point where he was hallucinating, seeing people, shadows and trails. I had to tell him about the research the I had shown him about it causing paranoia etc. The only thing that kept him (and myself) sane was me telling him to listen to my voice and hold my arm so he would know that I was real. My experience wasn't bad at all except I was playing babysitter and trying not to blow away in the wind. I later told him that I was thisclose to tying him to a chair until he came down. When the sun finally came up, things relaxed a bit and I started to enjoy my salt a bit more. Moral......do the research before you do anything and don't just read it and keep it moving. Yes everyone has different tolerance levels, but if you have never done these before, then please take heed to the advice given. I like what it does for me, with the exception of a few negative side effects. (joints hurting, problems falling asleep without my prescribed sleep meds) But my positive effects are so awesome! Getting housework done, homework and it's almost like my truth serum. If I am on it and I have something to say, I NEED to say it. like I can't stop the words that are coming out of my mouth. So far, it has only been a few people that I have cut out of my life, with more to come. Enough rambling for now. Hope this helps a bit :/

[sinurgy]

The Ivory packet on the stickies http://imgur.com/l8Dx5.jpg - looks exactly like this new shit that just came out last week called Radiance. Same size, same color, unzips at the top, and can reseal, Just says radiance though, and suppose to be "good luck powder".

SWIM might send some off and get it tested at dancesafe

[sinurgy]

actually just did a bit of research. Since MDPV is banned, and such, I found a chemical called 4-Methylethcathinone (4-MEC), and its effects are almost on point with Radiance. I wouldnt be surprised if thats what the main ingrediant is.

"Some reports of 4-methylethcathinone use involve redosing ("boosting" / "bumping") multiple times. Users sometimes mix oral and insufflated, taking some 4-methylethcathinone orally, then insufflating some, then taking more orally. Because of the common desire to recapture the pleasurable initial high, redoses are sometimes higher than the initial dose or are spaced closely together in time. Many users report having difficulty not redosing after using a strong dose if more 4-methylethcathinone is available when they are starting to come down"

Sounds exactly like it.

[The_One_and_Only_E]

Isn't 4-MEC banned as well? Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[NoOrFeRnLiTeBlAzEr]

I believe so The one

[brian_723]

Legal high Ivory Wave to be banned

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/15/legal-high-ivory-wave-to-be-banned-115875-23421984/

[addicted2bathsalt:(]

SWIM? What the fuck? Why are you writing about yourself in the third person? LMAO Very odd! :eek:

To be honest, I think he or she is being very smart by doing that. First, it makes it so you do not really know whether he/she is talking about himself/herself, or if it's someone else. Second, by using the name SWIM, he/she hides their identity. That way, if he/she (or the friend, if that is indeed the case) is subject to a drug test at work if there is probable cause, the manager or owner is less likely to know that it is he/she who has written the post. In my opinion, you could learn to think about things like this BEFORE you start criticizing. I KNOW if you are bathing in salt, that you should be thinking much more clearly than that. It's thanks to my bath that this reply was formulated haha.

And SWIM, I have never heard of this brand, nor do I know if you are experienced in this exotic bathing technique, but 100mg is a rather small amount to keep you awake for 12 hours if you used it all at once, and it also depends on how you added it to your bathwater. I just joined in order to reply to this post, so I have no clue whether you can pm or not, but I have a bit of experience and knowledge in bathing with salt, so if you have ANY questions whatsoever, pm me.

Thank you to everyone who reads this post. Sorry if it dragged (It has been roughly 13 or 14 hours since I began my bath, I'm feeling a tad nuts at this point :p), and sorry to Grapes if I offended you. My only purpose here is to make a feeble attempt at opening minds.

[addicted2bathsalt:(]

Having bought 500mg of Ivory Wave online, the results of a small snort have been pleasantly relaxing for about an hour so far. Waiting to see what happens. If I feel ok in the morning, might try another small snort - better safe than sorry I say. Balancing the downside of taking too little and wasting it or taking too much and going mental.. it's an unknown factor. My advice is to try a little... I just tipped some into the center of my palm... hardly a line even. So far so good, as the guy who fell from the 50th storey said as he passed each one on the way down. Bless All.

I have to say, not many people are smart about bath salt (not that doing bath salt in general is very smart, but I'd be a hypocrite if I told everyone not to do it), but you, my friend, are very smart. I know quite a few people who literally lost their minds from doing too much bath salt, or even using it regularly. Everyone should make sure they have done their research BEFORE they jump in, just saying. Good luck to everyone who decides to try it; I hope you are as smart as CardinalBlue. And I'm going to pass along that blessing, so Bless All. :)

[rapidfire187]

Not to stir up anything here but I'm generally curious. I read a news article a couple of months ago about somebody that went insane after using some sort of bath salt and murdered/molested his neighbors pet goat. Seriously, the most bizarre thing I've ever heard of. Do you guys think it's BS?

[The_One_and_Only_E]

Not totally BS. If you fuck up with the dosage, or are unaware of the effects of compulsive re-dosing you could end up with a bad case of stim psychosis; which is usually exacerbated massively by the insomnia caused by the binge. Chances are though it was sensationalized by the mainstream media and therefor shouldn't be taken as 100% accurate.

It also sounds like this man had mental issues as well.

[rapidfire187]

Yea, the news article mentioned that a lot of people had recently been institutionalized because of it. That was the first time I heard of the bath salts being used like that and my first thought was "those people are idiots". Then I read a story in my local paper about how people were using herbal incense and getting put in the hospital, and some were having withdrawals when they couldn't use it. They also said that a man beat his girlfriend so severely she was put in the hospital, and attributed it to the fact that they smoked incense the night before. After I saw that, the news lost a shit ton of credibility with me.

[sam]

seriously !!! come onnn people , it is the " Media thing " , I don't have a clue how would anybody trust any kind of propaganda .

well , to be fair with the BS story , it is just a kind of stimulants and that does not change the nature or the way of thinking of anybody , so if one was crazy by nature and took a stimulant , hmmmm , i would stay cautious of him/her with or without RCs.

and here comes the roll of the media , they think and work exactly like movie directors , they want a good story to tell .
and it is boring and expected to tell a story about a carzy guy who did something crazy , no ?
but with adding bathsalts thing , it would be more exiting .
I personally don't have a tv cable and i wouldn't take one even for free . I would like to choose what i want to watch.

[rapidfire187]

Well, the supposedly these people had an 8 year old kid with a pet goat. The goat went missing and after asking people in the neighborhood, they found out this crazy neighbor was seen taking it into his house. When the police arrived, he was in his bedroom wearing a dress, and the goat was slaughtered in his bed and there was evidence of sexual abuse. Even without bathsalts, that's a pretty damn interesting story lol.
I didn't see it on TV either, somebody on another forum that I'm a member of posted the article. It was the first time I heard of bath salts. If it is strictly propaganda it did a damn fine job because I'd be too scared to even fuck with it now. Even though I know I'd probably be just fine, I'd hate to do too much and end up cutting my dick off in my neighbors kitchen or something lol.

[sam]

lol , don't worry too much bro , just read about it before and be reasonable .
and if you don't want the way you see things to be changed that could push you to do weird stuff , then stay away from psychedelic drugs .
most of bath salts have nothing to do with changing your thoughts but your mood .

[The_One_and_Only_E]

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most of bath salts have nothing to do with changing your thoughts but your mood .

Unless, like I said, you binge to hard and end up getting psychosis...